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Classic 500 Ownership Experience : Part 3 (After Sales Service)

by on December 22, 2015
 

 Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4

I guess, this post, however late, was inevitable. I was warned about the quirks I will have to face with Royal Enfield and I was okay with it, as long as it gives me the celestial riding pleasure. Well yes, this is not the practicality but I don’t think anyone buys an Enfield for the same. It’s irksome from the start as you have to wait for like 6 months to a whopping 1 year to actually own it after you test ride it. It starts right from the day you pay the booking amount and goes on in different phases of ownership.

Nevertheless, here is the long due third part of my Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership experience. I have broken the same into phases as per the service so that you can skim easily through the whole thing. Enjoy the read. 🙂


The Honeymoon Period

Well this is the period when everything feels perfectly right.

Silver Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

Machines.

You are madly in love with the machine and you ride it with utmost care <50 Km/hr. Gears are applied with perfection too. Everything is smooth and slick except you! You just can’t wait till the Running-in period ends

Same thing happened with me. Well, I witnessed bike’s 500cc mill to go from rough wild beast to the royalish smooth king. Ha! Enough for analogies. The simply stuff is that after buying a machine this costly you become super aware of even tiny of the noise (err sounds?) coming through it. The “zzz” sound when applying front disc brake is normal. The engine becomes a bit silent in a nice way as you cross 250~300 Kms. Overall the experience improve drastically but one may not notice it due to excitement of actually riding an Enfield for the first time.

Overall, I loved riding this beast and completed 500 on the ODO in 12 days only. It was a pleasant experience for me and god! RE makes you sexy. People will stare at you, inquire about the bike, admire you like fucking anywhere! Be it neighbours, office, public parking, red lights & even on goddamnit road while I was riding >100 Km/hr. So much for the old british charm eh?

First “Free” Service (@542 kms):

So, I had clocked 542 clicks (read: Kms) on the ODO already when I ready to go for the First “Free” service. A day before, I called up my friend Shivam who got his Silver CL350 serviced last week to run me through the whole procedure at once. After getting the necessary details, I planned to get up early next morning (Sunday, 18th Jan’15) and reach the Service station by 9:30AM. But little did I know, Dilli ki Sardi(Winters) just doesn’t allow you to get out of the multi-layered quilt setup one sleeps with. I got up at around 10.30AM, got ready and rushed to the North Delhi Motorcycles Workshop, Rithala at around 11.30AM only to find a long queue of RE machines lined up for some mechanical love! 😛

Here is the list of service activities to be done on my Silver Storm:

First free service activities - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

Quite a list eh?

The service centre is relatively very small and congested. I was attended by the RE Executive (don’t remember the name), and the procedure of creation of Job card started. He gave me an estimation of ₹1,200.00 for the First supposedly *FREE* service. And yes before you guys start bashing me, I know Owner has to bear the cost of parts and oil but still, it costed me more than first service of a ₹7,00,000  Toyota sedan! Anyways, I signed the job sheet and started telling the guy about the minor issues I have faced in my initial ownership. Here is the list of issues I reported:

  1. Handle bar swinging to left (alignment issue?)
  2. Bike stalling while down-shifting gears with clutch pressed.
  3. Golden coloring of Bend pipe
  4. Silencer having a deposit of burnt plastic (courtesy: My dealer, who didn’t remove the Styrofoam sheet before giving the bike to me).
  5. Check Left Indicator (it wasn’t working at the time of Delivery, but started working magically after Fuel filling 😛 *RE’s magical niggles*
  6. Misfiring of engine, sometimes a loud pop (phat) sound when idling.

The estimated Time of delivery given was ~3pm. I decided to wait in as I was hoping to see a hands-on view of how servicing is done and all. But, the staff of North Delhi Motorcycles Workshop was so rude, that they said you have to sit inside the customer lounge or else we wont service the bike. Now that’s some very rude behaviour with a customer who has just purchased one of the *Iconic* bike worth close to ₹2 lacs that too by a 22 year old guy who just got a job and put his savings in the down-payment and got a loan of ₹1.2 lacs just to get this bike.

Sure I understand there is a protocol for servicing but politeness could do wonder!

Still, I sat in the lounge and waited patiently. The mechanic did the usual (Oil and filter changes) and send the bike for washing. I was amazed to see none of my above problems were even addressed to until now. Attitude much? I patiently waited for the bike to come back from the washing. When it did, I went to another guy whose position read as “Customer Relationship Manager“. LOL! Was he? I told him about my concerns and even showed him the same on jobsheet and he addressed it like It was nothing and called the mechanic who just changed the Engine oil and the filter and he simply said, Bike has no issue. I still said, I find it difficult to drive in heavy traffic as It keeps stalling on low RPM when clutch is pressed to downshift the gear but it was dismissed quickly as “Ki ye to hota rehta h, chote mote issues hai” (English translation: “That this is something which keeps happening, they are minor issues”). I mean seriously?

I also told them about their own customer executive fault due to which my silencer has a big black burnt plastic spot(dealer didn’t remove styrofoam sheet from silence before delivery). They dismissed it by saying “Abhi to silencer garam nahi hai, nahi hoga, khud karlena” (English translation: “The silencer is not hot as of now, I won’t do it, do it yourself later”). Similar behaviour was seen for every issue. They didn’t even bother to check anything else except the work written on the Service invoice.

They just mopped and wiped the water off and applied some wax on the tank and asked me to pay for the jobsheet. The invoice generated was for ₹1,107.00. I paid in cash and felt bad to be treated this way. Here is the invoice for the same:

First service - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

₹1100 for first service. Damn that’s expensive!

Let’s try again..

I wasn’t satisfied with the service as mentioned above. I received a call from a ma’am asking about my experience of First service and if I am happy with it. This was the time when hell broke apart. I vented my anger for mismanagement and told her that I wasn’t happy with the service/customer treatment. She asked me visit them once again to get my issues resolved. I was planning to write a big hate-mail to Royal Enfield head office, Chennai but decided against it and went to the North Delhi Motorcycles Workshop.

I was stern this time and walked right into manager’s office and ask him if he is going to help fix my issues or not. Surprisingly the guy was calm and immediately asked their top rep to address my problems. I had discovered about the alignment issue with the wheels and told him about it as they wobble while riding. He dismissed it by saying that wheel alignment will cost around ₹400. I told him I am not going to pay a single penny as alignment is not supposed to be off so early (~560 Kms).  I also told them about the indicator issue that left one stops blinking as per it’s will.

I managed to convince(scare?) them to do it under warranty and I was promised to get it fixed by 4pm. I got a call around 4:10 PM to collect the bike. I went there sure enough the wobbling was reduced by a lot. The guy said “Ye to Unnis Bees Ka Fark hai! Itna To Chalta hai!” (English translation: “This is a slight difference, it won’t matter”). Indicator was also working properly now so I assumed it’s fixed. I was charged ₹16 for 2 Flanged hex bolt (pretty expensive for 2 bolts eh!).

Wheel balancing - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

₹16 for 2 bolts?!

 

Second “Free” Service (@1568 kms):

3000 Kms/90 days is the criteria for second service. But as summer’s were approaching, my riding became a lot less it used to be. I used to take bike to Office (Adobe Noida), ~40 Kms away from home. So, this time instead of completing the Kms, 90 days were approaching and I got the call once again to book an appointment for the service. I did that and fix it for Sunday, 29th Mar’15. Surprisingly, Shivam’s second service was also at same time as he was delayed by 10 days for the same. We reached the service centre around 10 AM this time and the job card process started.

I have had some minor niggles with the bike, which are as follows:

  1. Stalling issue (suspecting the low Idle RPM).
  2. Horn button became too tight (sometimes didn’t blow on pressing which can be dangerous on road.)
  3. The damn left indicator
  4. Rear tire wasn’t aligned (was wobbling like hell)
  5. Clutch was very tight!

So as per the process, the following was to be done.

Second free service activities - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

The second one.

But, the service representative put up an estimate of ₹1000 again, and I was shell-shocked. How in the name of god? I inspected the job card and there it is, he put up the bike for Engine oil change again and oil filter and exactly like it was in first service. I asked him and he said “Sir 1500+ KM chalne par karwa dete hai hum change” (English translation: “We generally follow this practice when bike has run 1500+ Kms”). I simply showed him the service criteria, it is supposed to be done around 3000 Kms and still only Check/Top up is to be done in 2nd service. I refused him to do any of it and just to the bare minimum, he told me ₹250 and I gave my consent for the service (without checking, my mistake).

The “service” was completed in 10~15 minutes and again except Idle RPM, no other issue was looked upon and bike was already lined up for washing. I was waiting patiently that maybe it will be fixed post-washing. NOPE!

I went into Customer Relationship Manager’s cubicle and told him about the same. He inspected the bike and rejected the tire wobbling as a problem and said itna to har bike me hota hai. So I told him to check Shivam’s Classic 350 and guess what his tyre was perfectly lined with the frame. He didn’t agree to it and I was dejected. Then I told him about the faulty horn and he again dismissed it by saying “Sir aap jaan he nahi lagana chahte” (English translation: “Sir, why don’t you put more pressure on it”). This was the limit, I simply asked him to fix/replace it else I will drop a mail and complaint against it. He said that he can’t replace the same as it’s not completely broken. Surprisingly I have read this same in other RE ownership reviews. RE people insists on completely breaking an item before they will replace it. Funny right? Even if it endangers your life. Nope! Sir first break it.

Well, I was adamant with it and they finally replaced the whole console. Indicator was working fine again and I was assured that it’s fixed. I believed them once again to was at peace with it. For the clutch issue I was told that since it’s a 500cc Enfield, it is supposed to be hard to press. Wait, what? How is this possible. I have ridden Suzuki Intruder which is having a fucking 1800cc mill. It is fun to drive and manoeuvres like a baby and clutch/gear shifting is also smooth. I was like leave it, there is no point in arguing with them.

The bill was generated and it was ₹242 for Chain lubrication and Battery treatment. I paid it and a guy was cleaning the bike. I looked down and chain was dry as a desert! I called him immediately and asked him about the same. He said that he forgot to do it. He started the bike, put up first gear and as tire was rotating, he got a spray can and sprayed it across the chain. What?! ₹250 for that? I could have done it myself.

Nevertheless, I took the bike and left with a broken heart as I knew it’s going to be same in every service. Honestly I expected a bit of a special treatment after buying a sub ₹2 lac bike.

Here is the invoice, just in case:

Second service - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

Avoid Chain lube spray, buy one & do it yourself.

Third “Free” Service (@3233 kms):

So, some 3 months later with 3233 clicks it was time to get my CL500 serviced. This time however, I was fully prepared to deal with the workshop agents (that’s what they are) in the best possible way. Since last service, few issues cropped up with my bike which I was eager to get solved at any cost, either with hook or crook.

As usual I got the call from the workshop. I decided to book an appointment for the first slot i.e: 9AM for Sunday (5th July 2015). Unlike last time, I was a bit discipled this time and was standing in the workshop at 8:55AM. Mine was the first Enfield for the day. The guy came in 5 minutes with the usual yellow jobsheet and took my Owner’s Manual to check/fill the required details. Before he could brief me about the expenses, I asked him to do the basics, skip the Battery treatment and Chain lubrication from the jobsheet. The bike had run only for 1600 kms uptill now, so I didn’t think chain lube was necessary. However, I did point out that in 3rd free service activities it’s clearly mentioned in #3 to check battery terminals and apply petroleum jelly. The guy fumbled, mumbled and said “Yeah sure.” Preparation eh? 😉

Third free service activities - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

Activity List for Service #3

After the usual affair, he asked me if I am facing any issues with my machine. Sure! Here is the list of issues from top of my mind:

  1. The damn damn damn left indicator (changing console didn’t fix it) 🙁
  2. Tightest clutch ever with the level wobbling like crazy on speeds >40 Km/h
  3. Loose seat (probably due to after-market seat cover guy’s laziness)
  4. Slight misfiring of the silencer (rarely but noticeable)
  5. <One more trivial thing I am not able to recall>

Surprisingly, the guy nodded his head in affirmation for all the issues and wrote them down on the job-sheet. Ay! That is some positive change. He quoted me ~2 hours before delivery of the bike so I decided to wait on and get my issues resolved. One of the usual mechanics hauled my bike on the Service Bay #1 and started with his business.

Now, this is when this very interesting thing happened. I planned to visit a friend directly from the service station so was carrying my backpack with my laptop, along. I decided to wait in the owner’s lounge, which is opposite to the service bays. I took my favourite seat in the corner sofa so that I can see my Silver Storm getting serviced. After a while as I was getting bored so I took out my laptop. I switched on my Airtel 4G LTE wifi tethering and connected my laptop. I decided to open this exact post and started drafting my experience for the third free service. Since I was the only one there, one of the mechanic came and sat next to me in that lounge itself. He saw me typing furiously (I do that) in the Zen mode of the WordPress post and this piqued his interest. He asked me what was I typing. I saw the opportunity and I seized it 😎

I told him “I am drafting an email to the head branch of Royal Enfield (Chennai) as I am fed up of this workshop’s service. I have had few issues from a while now which are not being solved”. I also told him that I will only wait till the delivery and if my problems are not resolved I am going to send the mail with all top officials of RE in cc. I even said a few names (God bless LinkedIn) 😉 After this, the guy went straight into Manager’s room.

I don’t know what happened but the service in-charge called me and asked me to explain my issues, which I did perfectly. He asked me to sit in the lounge and assured me they will fix all it all.

After the service, the bike was being buffed with wax, my left indicator was changed as the problem was finally diagnosed to be the faulty bulb holder. They even decided to do a chain lube for me for free, which is IMHO rare of the rarest. At about 11:30 pm, when the bike was serviced, washed, cleaned, waxed and buffed. The in-charge guy came and asked me to take it for a spin and check if I had any other problem.

Lo and behold, I took the bike out of service centre and as soon as I pull the beast into the first gear, I knew everything has been done perfectly for the first time! Man. The clutch, gear-shift, engine, all of it became so smooth. It felt exactly like it was at the time of delivery. I came back and told them everything is fixed and thanked them for that 😛

The final bill generated was ₹968.00 which I paid gladly. For the first time, I felt satisfied with RE’s service as they actually listened to my problems and genuinely solved them. I wish they keep doing the same.

Finally I rode home with a huge grin on my face.

Here is the invoice:

Third service - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

Same as #1 minus chain lube

Fourth & Last “Free” Service (@5167 kms):

So, 3 months were up since the last time and I got the call from service centre regarding my last free service i.e: The Fourth one. As usual, I booked for an appointment at 9 AM for Saturday to avoid the rush. I got there at 8:55 AM, and in 5 minutes I was ready with my feedback for the service executive. I had only 2 issues:

  1. The throttle movement (Accelerator) was not smooth. It was jerky and was not rotating to it’s 100%.
  2. Idle RPM was too low, causing the bike to stall once a day.

The executive promptly noted down my feedback & assured me to get it fixed. I was quoted an estimate of ~₹1400 because of addition of ₹900 for Engine oil to which I argued that it’s not there in service manual and what’s the point of changing it in every service? To which there was no explanation and he said he will get the level checked and top it up. Man! They never seem to learn to not mess with a guy like me 😛

Fourth free service activities - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

The 4th one.

My experience in 3rd service was pretty good so, I politely asked for the same mechanic to do the service for my bike and he happily agreed to do so. I was given ETA of 2.5 hours for which I decided to wait as I really wanted that throttle mechanism to be fixed. The mechanic begun with general service stuff, topped up engine oil and after an hour, he called me. He showed me that the accelerator wire has caught rust due to which it is not allowing smooth movement of the throttle and it need’s to be changed. I asked him to go ahead and replace it with a new one. He even explained me how Enfield uses Twin cable for throttle and how we need to take apart the whole chassis to change that in Classic 500. So, brownie points for that. 🙂

After a while, the mechanic called me again and asked me to go for a test run as he has replaced the cable. I saddled up, fired the engine & started the ride. The throttle was back to the awesome state it was in when I first got the bike. I just twisted my wrist and boom! I crossed 70kmph in that congested street. Honestly, I got so used to riding with the faulty cable that I had forgotten the engine response on my beast. I brought back the bike to workshop with a stupid grin on my face & gave a thumbs up to the mechanic. He then fixed up the Idle RPM issue and asked me to test it if it feels fine to me. After resolving my queries he did the usual bolt inspection and send the bike for washing and stuff.

After the usual cleaning and polishing stuff, my bull was ready to rule the roads. The ₹602.00 bill generated looked like this:

Fourth free service - Royal Enfield Classic 500 Ownership Experience

The bill.

Ha! Yes, they sneaked in battery treatment because I didn’t ask not to do it. Also, do you see #4 for “Black cable strap“, that’s actually just normal cable tie which was getting lose on the handlebar where it is used to keep the wires together. Upon enquiry I was told that these cable straps comes in pack of 6 so they decided to replace all of them on my bike.

₹36 for 6 cable tie is just bonkers but that’s how Royal Enfield workshops work. 😛

This wasn’t that bad of an experience as I got my throttle fixed. That’s all that matters. 😎


Well this is going to be a long continuous post till I own the Bull. I plan to update this post on various Milestones (Service every 3 months, 5k/10k Kms and so on..). This will also help me track the overall experience of my ownership and will be a useful resource for any who owns a Royal Enfield Classic 500 or plans to do the same.

Feel free to drop a comment below if you want to ask anything specific about the beast. I would be happy to help and since owning an Enfield makes you half a mechanic (pun indeed?). Anyway, jokes aside! Try me, I may be able to give you a great advice after all 😉

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  • Vivek Kumar
    June 9, 2017 at 11:41 am

    Hi bro,
    I am planning to buy Desert Strom in July and have saved money for it from last few months. Its the bike I need Nd I dream about.
    But after reading the reviews of the bike Nd the issues related with it, I am in doubt. Moreover the behaviour of service staffs are not good. What shall I do bro…I am in big confusion if whether to go for desert storm or not.

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  • Soumen
    April 22, 2017 at 11:28 pm

    Hi
    I own a bike which has done only 4900 in 1yr6 minths- kms.please suggest some basic stuff I would ask for while going for a service only 2 service has been done.I am not able to feel the power completely for @ 500 RE. Some irritating sound also there.they already changed once the tapid as it was reason for some sound.

    Reply

    • May 5, 2017 at 12:03 am

      Hi Soumen,

      As I can observe, you have just ridden 4600 km in 30 months of your ownership. That is less than 150 km per month.
      Also, in this whole tenure, you just serviced your bike twice which is way less than recommended interval in the service manual. One should get his bike serviced at least once despite the running as when a bike is not ridden much like in your case, the engine oil tends to become sticky hence causing that dissatisfaction you feel now. I would highly recommend getting your bike serviced and lubed up.

      It should give you good results.

      Happy Riding,
      Jatin

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  • Rohan
    March 9, 2017 at 1:05 am

    Hi bro.. I’m biggest lover of RE classic 500 i want to purchase but i have come across the EFI blow up problems. I have read about it on RE website and one of my friend who is in RE showroom he also told to go for 350 instead of 500 classic due to the EFI problems. Now I’m confused and stuck to a problem. Weather i should go for classic 350 or classic 500. I’m mad for 500 but due to the issues with the EFI I am sacred to going for it. Bro please help me out. Because I’ll be paying such a huge amount for the bike and if the failure occurs. The system change cost more like around 10k-14k. As u have own classic 500 so tell me for which one 1 i should go. And I’ll be using the bike for commuting in city and even I’m going to plan for leh ladakh trip and weekend trips. So brother plz plz help me and what precautions i should take for not occurring the EFI system failure. As u have told in one of your above article that driving on low fuel on high rev it will blow up the EFI system. Help me thank u.

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    • May 5, 2017 at 12:00 am

      Hi Rohan,

      I understand your concern very well as I went through same while buying the bike and I was so paranoid that before last month of my warranty ending, I had the whole of the thing thoroughly checked by RE mechanics so that if there is any fault with the system, I could get it done in warranty itself.

      I have completed around 17K Kms and haven’t face any issues related to the EFI fuel pump. The stuff we read on the internet about problems is mostly pre-2014 when Classic 500 EFI was still fresh in its assembly line. I would like to think RE has sorted most of the issues with the bike due to continuous feedback by customers.

      I would, however, admit that I take a lot of care about all aspects of my ownership. Whether it’s timely servicing or maintain ample fuel in the tank, I am always spot on about it. So, IMO you can go for whichever bike you like based on your riding experience and call it a day. You would still need to put some effort in its maintenance though. You just can’t compare RE’s ageing with a Jap bike.

      One good suggestion I can give is, if you are so paranoid, try Bullet 500. It’s purely mechanical, easy to repair even by a local mechanic. Try it out and let us know. 🙂

      Happy riding,
      Jatin

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  • Ajit Kurup
    December 4, 2016 at 7:39 pm

    Hi Jatin,

    This is a great blog on the Classic 500. I haven’t owned a bullet ever in my life and plan to buy one soon, though i am not decided on the variant. Most of the doubts I had have got cleared through the Q&A (really appreciate your patience in answering all). I am more or less prepared to buy one despite the niggles.

    Since I am buying it for the first time, I am inclined towards the CL for the retro look but am still not sure whether i should go for the 500 or 350 would do. I will decide on the colour once i decide on this. I have other scooter and car for all other purposes. I intend to buy this for office commute though not daily and weekend trips.

    It would be great if you could give me some clarity on above.

    Thanks,
    Ajit

    Reply

    • May 4, 2017 at 11:53 pm

      Hi Ajit,

      Looks like I am a bit too late to get back to you. I promise it won’t happen again. 😀

      So, tell us, did you get your Enfield finally or still caught up in choices?

      Cheers,
      Jatin

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  • Sankar A
    November 7, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    Hi Jatin,
    I own a Classic 500 – Desert Storm and I am from Chennai.

    During the floods, last November, I had to ride the bike in a road which had stagnated water and during which the water penetrated into the engine through the Silencer. Two days later, I took it to service center and got the oil and Air filter changed, My bike was 3k KMs done that time.

    I lost the smoothness since then, vibrations are high too.

    Now my bike has crossed 13k kms, Engine is not opened, changed oil 4 times since then.
    Can you please let me know, what should be done to gain back that smoothness?
    1.Should I ask a mechanic to open the engine and just clean it completely during the next oil change?
    (Would be there any deposits which causes this?
    2.Compression tests shows normal.Should I get the the Piston Rings changed?
    3. Do you advice the Bore/Piston and rings replaced?
    4. Finally, if this is going to be not giving the smoothness back, Should I sell this and buy a new bike?

    Regards,
    Sankar

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    • November 12, 2016 at 11:46 pm

      Hi Sankar,

      This is pretty sad to hear that your bull had to suffer water damage and now you aren’t able to enjoy the ride.

      Before exploring your #1-#4 options, my top suggestion would be to raise the same issue @ service center and if your bike is in warranty, you can definitely work out on a middle ground with the workshop people. Let them inspect and get back to you with results.

      One good learning for you here is that you shouldn’t have neglected the scenario and ridden like 10K KMs before realising the problem. You should never start your engine in case of water submerge and you went on for like an whole year. Anyway, here is a good article for you to go through to be prepared for next time (god forbids) : https://eatsleepride.com/c/19080/how-to_restore_a_motorcycle_damaged_by_flood_water

      Happy riding,
      Jatin K Malik

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  • Vamsi Krishna
    November 4, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    Hi Jatin…. read ur part 3 and part 4 blogs,… its gud… i too own a classic 500 and have clocked close to 10k kms so far in 1 year.

    Talking about service and build issues… i faced similar problems like:

    1. Rear wheel mis-allignment ( a portion of my rear tyre got eroded due to this)
    2. loose connections in speedometer and head lamp lights
    3. Tappet noise within the first 500 kms
    4. rust and paint issues in few places.

    But yeah, all these issues were resolved and driving the bike is pure bliss..!!

    keep writing ur experiences and i am sure to read them too..

    Happy riding..!!

    Reply

    • November 5, 2016 at 11:15 pm

      Hi Vamsi,

      Thanks for the appreciation.
      The issues you mentioned are pretty common and are mostly due to lack of QE on Royal Enfield’s behalf.

      Happy to know you are enjoying your ride mate!

      Ride safe,
      Jatin

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  • Dipan Sharma
    September 26, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    Hey Jatin ,

    That was quite an explicit description of the RE experience.

    I was planning to buy a 350 classic but looking at the service experience you have had I am starting to think again.

    I just wanted your opinion as you have observed / ridden / got serviced the bike quite keenly.

    Should I overlook the service factor and go for it plus ?

    Is the bike technically sound as it does not seem so in your description.

    Thanks Bro

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    • September 29, 2016 at 11:33 am

      Hey Dipan,

      Thanks for reading the blog post. 🙂

      RE will demand your attention a lot more than a Jap bike of similar range for sure, but riding an Enfield is another feeling altogether. You have to take a decision, either logical or sentimental. Also, honestly, after a year you will be an RE pro and will know the solution to most of the problems you may encounter.

      I did a road trip from Delhi – Chd – Amritsar – Delhi (~1100 Km) and it went EPIC! Didn’t face any problem and biking was smooth as butter. At the end, it’s up to you and your use case.

      Cheers,
      Jatin

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      • Dipan
        September 29, 2016 at 8:49 pm

        Thanks Jatin ,

        Thats good enough.

        I think I will remain “sentimental” and go for it.

        Waiting for the next part.

        Cheers Mate !!

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  • Avnish Khurana
    September 21, 2016 at 1:41 am

    Hey Jatin,
    I am planning to buy a RE Bullet. I don’t want to know much about the technicalities of owning a RE Bullet, all I want to know is which BULL should I buy. I am inclined towards Desert Storm and Squadran Blue more. Kindly advice which would be the best option keeping everything in mind, i.e. maintenance costs, longevity, pleasure :), etc…

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  • Bob Crawley
    September 10, 2016 at 9:48 am

    Hi Jatin,
    I live in Thailand and the RE has recently come available. I am considering the Classic 500 and already have fallen in love with it. I am 65 so will look as classic as the bike haha.
    My only worry is vibration, so I would appreciate your views and any methods of reducing vibrations.
    Interesting blog and very useful, thank you
    Bob

    Reply

    • September 21, 2016 at 4:09 pm

      Hi Bob,

      Biking has no age limits, that’s the best part. I am sure your age will only add more to the classic charm of RE.

      As for the vibrations, my ODO currently read 11k Kms and the vibration problems I have mentioned above has reduced a lot. The bike is very pleasent to ride now. I am not sure if I know of any other method than riding it and completing first 5000 kms as it gets way better after that.

      Happy Riding!
      – Jatin

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      • Bob
        November 28, 2016 at 2:31 pm

        Hi Jatin,
        I have now completed 1200kms on my geaphite chrome classic 500 and Ireally enjoy it. I was amzed at the difference the 500 kms oil change made. Thebike was so much smoother through the gears and vibrations greatly reduced. I do not find vibration to be of real concern now. For your info I used Motul 3100 Gold as 5100 is not available here in Thailand. We are getting ready for a 2000 kms road trip around Northern Thailand next month so will send a report/review on completion. I just hope the lady is not too uncomfortable on the pillion seat.
        Cheers Bob

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      • Bob Crawley
        December 21, 2016 at 4:16 pm

        Hi Jatin,
        I am currently touring Northern Thailand and the odo is now showing 3000kms, so for all you guys concerned about vibration and smoothness, the Classic 500 matures as the kms pile on. After 2000kms I noticed a great improvement and it seems to improve by the day. I was getting a smooth ride at 80kph but now with a little pushing sometimes, the engine is beginning to run more smoothly at 90kph. I think top speed will improve with more kms.
        I would like to install a fuel injection aid like the V&H fuelpak 3 or Power Commander V. Any advice on these wouldbe welcomed. My bike is same spec as USA with O2 sensor. Best wishes Bob

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  • anurag
    August 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    Hi Jatin!!!

    IThis ius my second question/ query to you brother-

    1. As i owns a classic 500 chrome , recently replaced piston rings , but not sure how long ti wll last!!
    Can i install a Continental GT piston (535) to my classic 500.. ( Is cylinder wall re – boring is required) will it be beneficial??? Some of my friends suggested that Break horse of around 2 will increase??? will that be fruitful and long-lasting???

    Thanks Bhai!!

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    • anurag
      August 22, 2016 at 4:30 pm

      Jatin Bhai,

      Any suggestion for ECU Remapping around delhi/ncr??? No authorised showroom willing to do that!!!

      Any Feedback for Powertronics/Power commander ECU???

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      • September 21, 2016 at 3:25 pm

        As for the ECU remapping, I have not had any experience with it. I will suggest you to ask on TeamBHP forums for the same.

        I mostly like sticking to the stock configuration when it comes to my vehicles especially 2 wheelers.

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    • September 21, 2016 at 3:22 pm

      Hi Anurag,

      I somehow missed this question.

      At what km did you replace the piston rings? And ah I would strongly recommend you to stay away from such “jugaads” and only use the OEM part meant for the engine. It’s really easy to mess up with the engine if you don’t know what to do? And no doing such things won’t increase your BHP (Brake horse power) as changing piston rings has nothing to do with the size of the combustion chamber to increase power delivery to the crank.

      Don’t do it. 🙂

      Cheers,
      Jatin

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  • Mahesh Dewan
    July 16, 2016 at 7:34 pm

    Hi Jatin
    Is it a good idea to spray a coat of diesel on the bike, especially on the chrome plated areas, eg: rim, handle, spokes, shocks etc.
    The main reason being inorder to prevent rust, because diesel after drying leaves a thin coat of oil? Or should be done with kerosene? Whats your advice?

    What is the best to clean and lubricate the chain and sprockets? Should it be done with diesel or kerosene? How often should one clean the chain? How would you do it?

    thanks
    mahesh

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    • July 16, 2016 at 11:03 pm

      Hi Mahesh,

      I really have no idea about applying any diesel/kerosene coating. Maybe you find that out and let me know?

      If you think your chain is dirty and too lazy to clean it thoroughly mix a little diesel with 90 gear oil or kerosene(1:3) and apply to the chain. Good results but the floor gets dirty for 1 or 2 days. You can use this brush for effective cleaning – http://amzn.to/29EinEO.

      I am yet to clean the chain myself. Should do it someday, will include in the blogpost.

      Regards,
      Jatin

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  • Vikram
    July 8, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    Hey Jatin – Firstly please accept my appreciation for a great, well written article and the tireless doubt clearing you’re involved in.

    I test rode the Bullet 500 little less than a month ago and gonna do again in a couple of days (along with a CL 500 too). I live in Chennai and so I think it’s safe to assume these issues that surface because of transporting bikes huge distances packed in trucks shouldn’t even come to me. Also almost all the complaints about the RE bikes and the after sales support seem to be coming outside of Chennai (please correct me if I am wrong) and so I’m safe.

    That said I’m unable to decide between the Bullet 500 and the CL500. I’m a bullet lover since childhood and always wanted to own one. I never considered the 350 CC variants because I always preferred the bigger bikes. If there was a 600 or 700 CC variant then I would have looked away from the 500 CC variants too. 🙂

    I read a lot of complaints about the CL 500’s EFI. They say that local mechanics have no clue of it and the only option an owner is left with is to take it to a service center whose operatives don’t seem to have much knowledge either and suggest replacement of the EFI for almost 14K whenever there is a problem.

    Personally I love the looks of the CL 500 Chrome but your comments above seem to suggest that they will remain chrome only for possibly a few weeks and then all I’ll see is rust. In which case I might consider Desert Storm or Squadron Blue but only if I’m convinced that the CL500 is that much better than the Bullet 500. Also I’m slightly more inclined towards the Bullet 500 because it has higher handlebar and single seat which seems more comfortable for me. Another major reason for my inclination is that I feel that the Bullet 500 matches more the image of the Bullets from my childhood days and so the CL 500 seems modern.

    Please let me know if there, in 2016, are still problems with CL 500’s EFI system and electronics. Do you feel that the CL 500 is definitely much better than the Bullet 500 and that I’ll miss something if I go for Bullet 500 and not CL 500?

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    • July 16, 2016 at 10:29 pm

      Hi Vikram,

      Wow! Thanks for your appreciation and welcome to BitSnapper! 🙂

      Yes! You are correct to assume that you don’t have to face the same amount of issues as us fellow Indian due to your hometown being same as the production house of RE. I have heard a lot of good stories about RE’s otherwise incompetent customer service in Chennai. So, you are in for luck! 😎

      Ah! Well I may have some good news for you. Since RE is working hard to make new engines that will be BS4 certified for 2017 (mandate by RTO – http://goo.gl/CmzXGR), there is a very good possibility that they will be introducing a 750cc mill. That’s correct, it should play as a direct competitor to Harley’s homebrewed Street 750. So, it’s all about how patient you can be? 😉

      Coming back to original question, Hi5! I have always been a Standard bullet fan since my childhood too as one of my uncles used to own one. It still is a magical memory when he used to take me for a ride when I was 10 on his Bullet 350. Good ol times!

      Well, even I have read so many stories about EFI failing that it is one of the biggest nightmares. But, statistically, I have been an active participant on forums like xBHP and TeamBHP, and I haven’t read any such case. TBH, EFI is not some magic voodoo stuff. Every BS4 compliant car as EFI, yes, even Alto boasts of Multi-Point Fuel Injection. So, it is not some new thing. EFI is pretty reliable and way better performer when compared to Carb both in terms of power delivery and efficiency. It is just a sheep-herd mentality we have developed that if it’s new, it must be bad.

      The people who have had face this problem are noobs. They just never read the enclosed service manual (you should!). It clearly mentions that since fuel pump (EFI) is not externally cooled, it relies on petrol in your tank as a cooling system. So, it is recommended to not run your bikes dry on high RPM. So, if you are going to red-line your bikes on reserve (lower end of it), then I am not sorry for their EFI’s blowing up.

      CL Chrome looks pretty dope but rusting is the super-irritating issue, RE surely needs to improve their quality check. Desert Storm is pretty good too but Squadron Blue is my personal favourite nowadays. It looks pretty cool though.

      In your case, I will say that owning a Royal Enfield is more of an emotional choice than a practical one. If you feel inclined towards Bullet 500, take a test ride, make sure it feels comfortable to you and go for it. There isn’t much of a difference anyway now as RE uses a standard assembly for most of the parts in all of the bulls.

      Summing it up, I haven’t faced any major problem with EFI or electronics as of present. Yes, CL500 is better than Bullet 500 is terms of efficiency and raw performance but looks is more of a personal choice. You won’t miss much in either of choices and pros/cons balance it anyway. 😉

      Good luck mate and Happy riding,
      Jatin

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      • Vikram
        July 17, 2016 at 10:45 am

        Hey buddy –

        Thank you for the reply. I test rode the CL Desert Storm and fell in love with the power delivery and throttle response of it. There’s definitely noticeable difference vs the Bullet 500. So I dumped the Bullet 500. Choosing RE wasn’t difficult but choosing a model within an RE only is. 🙂 Yeah, now that I’m clear that it’s gonna be CL 500 the next problem of choices appear – Squadron Blue or some Chrome variant.

        I eliminated Desert Storm because I like the Squadron Blue better and also almost every CL 500 I come across in my city (Not too many anyway as most of the REs are CL 350s) are Desert Storms. I love the Battle Green too but it seems that it’s strictly only for Military use. What a pain. Why do they tempt the common men by putting it on their website then?

        I am torn between the Squadron Blue and Chrome. Chrome looks superb but my only fear is whether it’s more rust prone. Also the one hitch I feel about the Chrome’s looks is that band of Black/Green/Graphite in the mudguards. I wish they had left the mudguards purely chrome rather but that’s just me. Maybe others prefer it.

        So my final 2 questions (before I decide which one to buy, hopefully) are these:
        (1) Are the chromed parts fated to rust inevitably? How is Squadron Blue or Desert Storm’s chances for rusting. I am asking because if DS and SB too are not much better in resisting rust either then I might as well chose Chrome itself though it’s almost 9K more.
        (2) I’ve heard/read that the Chrome versions come with seats of leather finish. Will that be a another maintenance nightmare? I am asking because despite our best efforts the bike is sure to see some rain and will that kill the leather? I’m used to all such sufferings with my formal leather shoes, leather boots and sometimes even my leather belts. I’ve lost some good formal shoes to unexpected rains. Once soaked they are almost gone. Can’t be revived at all, at least 90% of the times. Fungus growth during such climates is another thing of worry. In short will leather seats be another maintenance nightmare.

        Despite all these fears I’m not able to look away from Chrome. 🙁 I wish RE had introduced some kind of Chameleon technology that can help their change into some 3 or 4 other paint variants to save people like me from some misery. 🙂 I’m sure even if they could they won’t. They seem to be stopping colors that are most well received. This seems very weird. I loved the Chrome maroon but it’s gone now. The Chestnut variant of the 350 is awesome but it’s not available in 500. 350s are for the kids. Big boys need bigger bikes, the 500s, but we still need choices too. Why doesn’t RE understand? I mean is it that very painstakingly difficult to provide more color variants? The reason one RE associate told me was that they didn’t offer some of those colors in 500 because that could hit the sale of 350s. Is their logical reasoning that very bad? I could only laugh at it.

        Regards,
        Vikram

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        • July 30, 2016 at 6:28 pm

          Hi Vikram,

          Sorry for the delay in reply, work life seems to have taken a toll on my blogging habits. 🙁

          So, looks like you are caught up in a similar problem like I was, choosing the right Classic! In my case, I was confused over Silver and Desert Storm (since Squadron blue wasn’t a thing back then). For you, however, it is:

          Classic Chrome vs Classic Squadron Blue 2016

          Desert storm is pretty common here in Delhi too! Also, I feel your pain with the general civilian like us not having the choice to buy the Classic Battle Green. I still drool over that variant whenever I open RE’s website. 🙁

          I will answer your questions in same order asked:

          (1) Are the chromed parts fated……..almost 9K more.
          >> Well, I will speak from my experience. The first parts to catch rust during 2015’s monsoon were the Chrome plated parts. If you read my 1 year later post, I have briefly described the pain of getting rust on a 6-month-old bike and especially when you can not do anything about it. 🙁 It is just bound to happen. So, my opinion towards Classic Chrome will be seriously biassed due to my personal experience. However, I will suggest that you check with Classic Chrome owners over popular forums like xBHP and Team-BHP to get a real world use case. In that way, you may be able to justify spending that extra 9k moolah!

          (2) I’ve heard/read that the Chrome versions……..another maintenance nightmare.
          >> To be honest, I have inspected Classic Chrome quite closely and I can assure you that seat isn’t made of “genuine leather”. It’s machine made leather as specified by RE with wording “The Classic Chrome sports a seat with a leather finish and adds to the visual appeal of the motorcycle”. So, I really don’t think you will have to worry much about its maintenance other than standard wear and tear. You can verify the same from a good RE workshop too.

          +1 for that Chameleon tech you have mentioned about.

          Who knows? Maybe, some 10-15 years later when RE will finally think about implementing some fresh ideas, Siddhartha Lal may stumble upon your comment on this post. 😛

          Also, I wholly agree with your rant about RE’s weird obsession with shutting down some really good paint options and introducing new ones every year. It’s good to refresh the models but the only paint job isn’t going to cut it.

          RE 350 is still the best-selling bike they make with pre-order waiting times ranging up to a year, which is crazy IMHO but reason that a color option may impact a person choosing CL500 over CL350 seems absurd because it will be better for Royal Enfield, as a company and from revenue standpoint, to sell its Flagship bike rather than a mid-ranger. Don’t you think?

          Anyways, Congratulations if you have had already made your mind. Let us know why and what did you choose? Till then, Ride safe and keep those miles coming!

          Happy Riding,
          Jatin

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          • Vikram
            August 7, 2016 at 1:47 am

            Hey Jatin –

            I am going for the Chrome Black. Couldn’t overlook it at all. But the confusions don’t end there. After doing a lot of research I’m going for the diamond crash bar. The Airfly old that you seem to have on your bike was what I initially had in mind but after reading a lot of blogs I am now going for the diamond. Moreover I was never too very particular about the airfly anyway.

            But there’s still one more confusion I’ve got. That is whether to go for the upswept silencer or not. From what I read and have heard myself the thump is significantly better with the upswept silencer. And since this is from RE itself it doesn’t void the warranty. But it comes for about 3.5K extra. But that is not the problem I have. I read in one blog that the mileage reduces with the upswept silencer. Is that true? Also is the upsewpt silencer harsher on the engine than the regular one? More than just the thump I also feel that the upswept silencer being higher placed will be better during rains. Last year Chennai was floating. I saw a lot of RE guys push their bikes as their silencers were fully submerged and engines stalled. That said I feel the upswept silencer has a little better tolerance as its placed a bit higher. So if mileage ain’t gonna reduce and it ain’t gonna be harsher on the engine I would go for it. What’s your take?

            Regards,
            Vikram

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            • August 10, 2016 at 12:21 am

              Hi Vikram,

              Great news! Finally, you were able to zero in on a variant.

              About the crash guard, I will be pretty honest that I have had a couple of bad slips in the monsoon on my Pulsar back in time so I am pretty cranky when it comes to the safety of my leg. I feel Airfly crash guard offers both front and side protection and also in the case of a slip, the bike doesn’t lay down all the way parallel to ground thus saving some fractures. I would be interested to know the cons about the same which you read on *other blogs*, just mildly curious?

              The upswept silencer has a good thump and it looks pretty sporty too. I wanted to go for it, but since I travel a lot with the pillion, I have had read that it gives pretty nasty burns on the pillion rider(s). Since I live in Delhi, and the summers here are unbearable, we often wears shorts and I really didn’t want any of my friends or relative to get their skin burnt due to same.

              But your reasons are justified about the rain and floods, this will surely save you from scrapping your silencer on some nasty speed breakers or potholes. I really don’t believe in shenanigans on an official silencer change affecting your pick up or mileage, it’s just that upon getting a thumpy silencer, you driving style automatically becomes more high-revving to devour that sound on the road resulting in bad FE. The enhanced thump is simply due to a simple physics concept of resonance, the shorter the bottle on the silencer, more bass-y the sound. 😉

              *Nerdy Me* 😛

              So, don’t worry about harming the engine or affecting the fuel economy, if you like the way it sounds and you have no problem with the pillion’s bare skin getting in contact with the same, go for it. It’s pretty good!

              Happy Riding,
              Jatin K Malik

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              • Vikram
                August 12, 2016 at 12:45 am

                Hi Jatin –

                I’ve finally booked a Classic Chrome Black. But that wasn’t so easy or direct. The showroom guy made me change my mind to Squadron Blue while I was in there filling out the form for booking quoting maintenance difficulties with Chrome versions. However after 2 sleepless nights I rang up the showroom in charge and asked him to make it Chrome Black again. Phew.

                And regarding the silencer, yes I like the beat of the upswept silencer but your message gives me worries about pillions. I take pillions very rarely now and one of the reasons I’m switching over to RE is because it’s comfortable for a family. So I need to be careful about the burns. Anyway I have almost a month to have my confusion cleared. The bike takes almost 30 – 35 days to be delivered. So this time I can use to research more.

                By the way I heard the exhaust of the Red Rooster silencer this week and got carried away by it. But I think it will void warranty. So for now I am most likely to go with the upswept or the stock one and then after warranty is over will probably switch over to Red Rooster. I like Wild Boar in idle but once you give some throttle it’s no longer good.

                Will keep you posted.

                Regards,
                Vikram

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  • AMIT KHEMNANI
    July 6, 2016 at 9:22 am

    HI JAITN .I THINK U R DOING A GOOD WORK BY GIVING PRICELESS INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO R PLANNING TO BUY R.E.AS I AM GOING TO HAVE A CLASSIC 500 BLACK TODAY I READ THE CHECKLIST YOU HAVE GIVEN AND IT’S MORE THAN USEFUL.THANKYOU VERY MUCH.

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  • indra
    May 24, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    Hello Jatin,

    I have two stories/ queries
    1. I got Squadron Blue from Mumbai store on 14th April,16 and after two days/60km I found oil spillage under engine when it was parked. Then I showed to local RE mechanic, he said its head leakage and advised me to seek the bike replacement. Earlier the store manager said its a breakage of some gasket or bush of engine. But with great efforts I sought the replacement. The store had another Squadron available, while taking its ride silencer was whistling (then come to know its known as engine-knocking ) so rejected the second too. Store had not available other Squadron, so I lost all trust from RE & got my money back.

    2. There happens to be little lust left in me for RE/Squadron and wanted to buy it and on the very next day I called a dealer from my native place (600 km away from Mumbai) just to ask whether they have Squadron available and the guy over the phone said only one model for display purpose. I was in 7th sky to listen this and requested to give delivery. Finally he agreed and my brother from native got the delivery.
    Problem: There was uneven gap between rear mudguard and back tyre on left hand and right hand side.

    The rear mudguard was touching to tyre from right side under seat to extent that the colour of mudguard burnt out and became rusty/brown due to friction and the rubber part of the tyre circumference was worn out.

    (This was already happened when he was driving back from Showroom to our village with pillion rider and come to know when he was washing the bike next morning).

    The next day he went to the showroom and after analysis the mechanic come to conclusion that swing arm was not good (the one below battery box) and replaced it. But my brother was not satisfied as according to him the tyre and the mudguard were still not in-line. So finally the mechanic replaced the Shock-ab with extended length to avoid the friction and the bike is doing well as my brother said only due to frustration and to avoid wastage of time.

    My question :
    1. was really that swing arm problem ? (where i assume it was main frame/chassis problem.)
    2. is replacing the shock-ab with extended length to raise the height of seat good notion in long run?

    sorry to bear long story 🙁

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  • Abhishek
    May 13, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    Goodaftrnoon sir. I jst read ur experience with ur bull…regarding its services. So i wanna ask u something .. i recently brought Enfield500 standard.. from north delhi motorcycle… there were minor issues bt they resolved in my first free service, but there is a doubt in my mind that there is a mark of as if oil leakage at the place where the kick bar is attached.. to the main engine.. i asked the service agent n he said that its jst chain lube that melts due to heating up of engine. But i doubt it so i wanna ask u that is it really the chain lube that melts or the oil is getting leaked. And 2nd ques. Is that is it necessary to get an engine flush poured before oil change…

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    • May 22, 2016 at 5:09 pm

      Hi Abhishek,

      I do not have the oil leak issue from the kick bar. I think it is due to cracked rubber seal. Chain lube has nothing to do with the bike kick as far as I know. You should be strict and talk to the workshop manager, if he refuses, threaten to send the email with pictures to Royal Enfield. That should do the trick. 😛

      As for your second concern, I didn’t get what do you mean by Engine flush?

      Happy Riding,
      Jatin K Malik

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  • Vishwanath Chari
    March 25, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    To my faith, the first service at 500km story is same as yours.. Looks like I can expect the rest to be same. But I am still not convinced about changing the engine oil at first service. And some 3D additive oil added in it what is it about?

    Would that really need?

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    • March 26, 2016 at 11:31 pm

      Hi Vishwanath,

      Well, it is strongly recommended that you change your engine oil in your first service. Do not skip it. Here’s why?

      When the bike is new, the first couple of oil changes is after relatively short distances/periods of time. This is done mostly to get rid of the metal particles that shed from the engine during this initial running in period. The theory is that these particles may stay in the oil if it’s not changed and the slurry mixture acts like a mild abrasive, leading to shortening of the engine life.

      If you’ve treated yourself with a new bike then I will recommend doing the running in properly. Flush the oil out as per the manual and get it changed at recommended intervals.

      Never avoid maintenance of small bits at the cost of it’s larger self (ex: Engine here).


      As for the 3D additive oil. It’s a straight NO. Just go for the oil change. It’s a new bike, you shouldn’t train your engine for additives. Keep it stock, keep it clean.

      Cheers,
      Jatin K Malik

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  • Abhishek
    March 24, 2016 at 12:31 am

    Can we have tubess tyre in classic 350
    I am going to get delivery of my bike next month

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  • satheesh
    March 10, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Hi,

    I got a desert storm 2 days back and i have some doubts to be cleared. i am new to RE and so i dont really know if these were exactly any problems.

    1. same as yours bike is stalling at low rpm as like wen slowing down and applying clutch to cross a speed breaker.
    2. i feel a misfiring wen i release the accelerator( kind of phat phat sound)
    3. Neutral gear doesnt fall when i wait at a signal having the engine on
    4.Bike starts using electic power start only by applying accelrator.

    Are the above mentioned an area of concern or is it normal with bullets.

    My bike has done just 78 kms.

    Expecting your reply on the same

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    • March 10, 2016 at 1:52 pm

      Hi Satheesh,

      Congratulations on your purchase! Desert storm is one mean machine.

      I will answer to your queries in same order asked:

      1. It’s a minor issue with adjustment of Idle RPM screw. You can do it yourself (if DIY type), local mechanic, or if your first service (500kms) is near, get it fixed in that.
      2. Again related to #1, due to low IDLE rpm, the cylinder doesn’t get enough of fuel-air mixture causing the bike’s engine to “lug” leading to the “phat” sound.
      3. This could be related to play in your clutch wire. It needs to be adjusted. My guess would be that the clutch is not getting fully deployed when you pull the lever.
      4. Again related to #1, due to low IDLE rpm, it doesn’t get enough fuel-air mixture in the chamber so the engine to stay on.

      Chill, you don’t need to be too worried about it. This kind of niggles can come in any bike.

      Relax, enjoy the ride and crunch some miles.

      Happy riding,
      Jatin K Malik

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  • Anji'K
    March 7, 2016 at 1:34 am

    Hi Jatin,

    1st of all I like to thank you for ur patience… After gone through ur blog I got some knowledge on RE 500CC… Seriously u r doing service and giving knowledge to us…. Thank you so much…

    I would like to share about mine..
    1) Since 4yrs I have been using Yahama Fazer … I dont wanna sell ths bike so I can use it for local purpose…. and now I have booked RE Desert Storm without any knowledge …. But I like to use this only for trips… I will get my bike in April and I have a plan to go to Munnar (Kerala) in July 1st week… From Hyderabad to Kerela it comes around 1300 Kms… Round trip will be 3000Kms…. Can I go for around 3K trip in 3 months of delivery?

    2) Still I am in confusion… I booked Desert storm but still I have a chance to change the colour… 3 times I went to showroom and I checked all 500CC machines…. 1st I wanted to go for Battle Green but I came to know that’s not available for common people as its only for military … My 2nd choice is Desert Strom but when I saw all machines at one place… Desert storm (Coz of matt finish )looks little dull compare to rest…. 3rd option is Silver with Black line…. Now in websites I saw squardon blue, which is going to be release in this year… Now I am in dilemma.. i want to go for best one… But dont know which is good for trips…. Can you please suggest me in this..

    a) Desert Storm
    b) Silver
    c) Squardon Blue

    My next trip will be Delhi – Shimla – Manali – Leh….

    3) Now my new problem is.. in last 2 days I have seen some customised bikes from Rajputana Customs and Vardenchi Customs… Their customised vehicles looks too good… But dont know how good they are in performance… Please help me out in this….

    Thanks in advance.

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    • March 10, 2016 at 10:26 am

      Hi Anji’K,

      Thanks a lot for your kind words. I will answer your comments in same order asked:

      1. +1 for Yamaha Fazer, great bike!
        RE Desert Storm is one good looking Enfield. It looks straight out of WWII era. RE DS is a great cruiser, you should not have any problems in doing a 3k km trip if you plan it right. The first service (oil change) is the most important thing. Since you will be getting delivery in April, you will be done with the first one in a month. The second service is a minor one with mostly inspection and lubrication. So, I will suggest going for the second service just a day or two before you leave for the trip to ensure your bike is healthy and everything is perfect. I will recommend you to carry the RE Service center number booklet (small red one) and also some spares with you like (1 Spark plug, Clutch wire, Acceleration wire) and youtube how to change them (at least have an idea). Do keep a plier in the toolbox, so if you get a flat tyre, you will be able to pull out the nail and drive slowly to the nearest puncture shop without damaging the tyre or tube. But I guess you must be knowing most of these being a biker yourself. So, yes! Enjoy your trip and let us know how it went.
      2. Hahaha! I know how hard it can be to choose the perfect color for your machine. My first choice was also a Desert storm but after reading horror stories about paint chipping off in first few months, I skipped it. But that’s how it is with any matte paint as it tends to crack under harsh sunlight. So, if you are a low maintenance guy, you should skip the matte paint, but if you can take care and make sure you clean your machine every other day you will be good.

        If I had to pick one now, I will pick Squadron blue, just because it’s a refreshing color but it’s a matte finish so maintenance rule follows.

        My second choice will be the one I own, the Siver CL500 because it looks badass with Silver/Black theme. The side profile is great.

        Third will be Desert storm because it looks real retro.

      3. This is subjective as it varies from person to person. I am more of a stock guy myself who doesn’t believe in meddling with the modern vehicles. I am all in for restoration of old 50s-70s make vehicles but not the ones being manufactured in the 2010s. Being a two wheeler, I will better stick to the vehicle tested with stress and safety norms because I value my life more than the style. So, a strict no from my side to modify the bike’s core frame or use overwhelming tractor tyres etc. I believe in getting the best out of my machines hence, stock is the way to go.
        Though you can always go for accessories as far as they don’t interfere with functioning of the base machine.

        Just my $0.02. 🙂

      Cheers,
      Jatin K Malik

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      • Anji'K
        March 10, 2016 at 9:43 pm

        Jatin,

        Once again thank you so much or ur time and information …. Even my frdz refereed me Silver 500CC.. But i saw some ppl here who modified their Silver 350CC to 500CC by adding that black colour… Now a days so many dng like tht… Thst y I didn’t show interest on tht.. Otherwise we liked tht so much than other machines.. If I go for DS or Squardro Blue that looks unique…. But dont have any idea abt squadron blue release date… My dream is riding RE 500CC on hill-station at monsoon… If I miss this time means have to wait till 2017 July…. I can maintain well as I dont use it for city ride… Please let me know if u have any idea abt Squadron blue available date in market…. If it will be release in couple of months I can wait otherwise will go for DS……

        Thanks
        Anji’K

        Reply

        • March 11, 2016 at 11:44 pm

          Hello Anji’k,

          Welcome.

          I personally don’t care if people are modifying or repainting their 350s but I can understand how it could be a problem if you want the exclusivity quotient. 🙂

          I think you should get in touch with your local dealer to know about the availability of the Squadron blue color. I think it should have the same waiting period of a week or two like the Desert storm. It should fulfill your desire for unique.

          Cheers,
          Jatin K Malik

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  • Yatendra Singh Chundawat
    February 11, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    Hello sir !
    “Sir” for your seniority in RE horizon 🙂
    I’m planning to buy a RE desert storm, plainly for how it looks.
    Now comes the obvious : queries :p –
    1. Does it comes in 350 cc variant too ?
    2 .is its performance is same as 350/500 cc siblings ?
    3. Does the rust issue has anything to do with colour of bike or it is standard around all shades ? I mean frequency n intensity
    4. Suggested upgrades, painting, accessories to make look more head turner ( if it all it requires ! . N how much it will increase the cost ?.
    5. I’m 5’7″ , 67 kg 😀
    Will I be able to control it ???
    6. I used to ride Apache rtr 160/2009 make
    I got stolen !
    Now I’m bit concerned about bike safety so, what will be a suggested accessory according to dynamic of bike.
    Can’t recall anything specific to ask for as you have already replied in detail in your review and comments. Will come back to you once I come across anything worth asking.
    Congratulations for your successful affair with this beast, I wish you both live together happily ever after 🙂
    Ps: pardon for spelling mistakes :p

    Reply

    • February 14, 2016 at 11:29 pm

      Hi Yatendra,

      Sir yourself 😉

      Royal Enfield classic 500 desert storm
      RE Desert storm is a pretty mean machine which looks rugged and straight from the WW II era. One of my very good friends owns it. Looks ain’t bad criteria to buy a cruiser but luckily it offers a lot more.

      Now the queries, please find my reply inline:

      #1. Does it comes in 350 cc variant too ?
      >> NOPE! Sadly that matte desert color is reserved for a 500cc mill only.

      #2. is its performance is same as 350/500 cc siblings?
      >> Technically a wrong question. If you read all the 3 posts and some comments below, I have explained how the performance difference in 350 and 500 millers is HUGE. 500cc provides an uplift of ~50% in Torque as compared to it’s younger sibling. You need to take both for a spin to understand what I mean. Anyways, Desert storm houses the same engine as Classic 500 with exact same specs. The paint finish and a classy name are the only differentiators.

      #3. Does the rust issue has anything to do with the colour of bike or it is standard around all shades? I mean frequency n intensity

      >> Well, technically not much but yes the matte finish of paint does require more care and maintenance as you won’t want dirt to stick with paint for longer periods of time and chip off the matte look. We don’t want that for our machine(s), do we now? 😉

      #5. I’m 5’7″ , 67 kg
      >> Well, that’s a question of personal taste and attitude. I have seen shorter men riding it with a swollen chest with pride. I would again suggest you to take a test drive and decide it for yourself. On a side note, the Enfields are really light and fun to ride when pulling on a smooth tarmac but balances out all the equation if it decides to halt. Pulling this bull isn’t a task for our realm. I am 6’2″ and luckily my Silver storm hasn’t failed me yet nor I hope it to. *Fingers crossed* 😎

      #6. I used to ride Apache rtr 160/2009 make got stolen! Now I’m bit concerned about bike safety so, what will be a suggested accessory according to dynamic of bike.
      >> Well, I am sorry for your loss. Apache RTR 160 was a crush when I had Pulsar back in the day. Well, you can always go for the portable disc lock. It’s cheap and effective. You can easily get one online. Here’s how it looks:
      Disc brake lock


      Phew. Those were some good questions!

      Thanks a lot for your great wishes. I wish to continue this love affair with my bull forever and ever 😀

      Cheers,
      Jatin K Malik

      p.s: Don’t fret on spellings. English isn’t our primary language anyway.

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  • Prasanna
    February 2, 2016 at 10:41 am

    Hello Jatin, this is a really nice review indeed. I also have a dream of buying a Classic 500 in coming months. So, i would like to ask you one more thing that, would you recommend this bike despite the flaws and other difficulties? This is going to be my first bike. Hope you answer soon. Thank you.

    Reply

    • February 3, 2016 at 10:01 am

      Hello Prasanna,

      Yes! I will surely recommend it if you are passionate about biking and will be able to overlook it’s niggling as a machine and treat it as a part of your life. I am authoring a Part 4, with my overall experience of the first year of ownership. Make sure to subscribe to the blog for the updates.

      Cheers,
      Jatin K Malik

      Reply

  • Arun
    January 29, 2016 at 9:49 am

    i’m planning to buy classic 350. but i’m totally confused about color. which is better, new silver or black. suggest me.

    Reply

    • Harpreet Singh
      January 29, 2016 at 1:38 pm

      Hi Arun ! I had a Classic 350 Black.(Unfortunately it got stolen) But I liked Black a lot more than any colour so went for that. But if you would like to consider, there’s a new colour Chestnut which also looks magnificent. Check it out before finalising your decision.

      Reply

  • Aditya
    January 28, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Hi Jatin

    I am planning to buy CL 350 cashewnut colour what do think of that

    Which is better for long rides Cl 350 or 500

    What difference of mileage in these two bikes Cl 350 and 500

    Regards
    Aditya

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  • Panindra
    January 21, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    First of all Hats of to your patience Sir.. 🙂 Even I have bought a New classic 500 and I am facing handle shake problem since day 1. Well service station guys have tried all there level best started convincing me saying the bike is like this.. Well, I have seen and tested many RE which does not has any problem like this.. Literally I am very much pissed of with this wobble \ handle shake problem. Surprisingly handle shakes at speed of 40-60 and 60-40.. I get irritated hold the handle.. Specially when mom is sitting behind me bike shakes like a snake slither. I just wanted to ask you was that problem solved?

    Reply

    • January 23, 2016 at 2:03 pm

      Hello Panindra,

      Thanks for the appreciation and welcome to the RE club! 😎

      Well, I will suggest you to check wheel balancing and alignment because most of the times it is the root cause behind a shaky wobbly handle.

      Take the bike to the workshop and make sure you ask them to check the balancing. If they make excuses, just walk into the General Manager’s office in the workshop itself and tell him to sort your problem else you will be writing an email to the RE customer care with extensive details about the workshop’s behaviour. One thing I have learnt in last one year is that you won’t get anything from RE’s workshop unless you press them hard.

      Do demand for the printed report of the alignment because sometimes a mechanic may do a manual test instead of running the fully computerised one.

      Fixing the alignment should reduce a lot of shakiness in the handle. If it still exists, then it could be a loose screw in the handle-frame junction.

      Let us know, if it helps.

      Happy Riding,
      Jatin K Malik

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  • Mahesh Dewan
    December 30, 2015 at 9:34 am

    Hi Jatin
    Awsome detailed report on your RE 500. Truly helpful and also inspiring, anyone who goes through your reports will not hesitate to buy a RE, not because the RE is a great bike but because you give such detailed advice and guidance on every aspect of the RE, right from stage 1, pre-booking to stage 3.

    Anyways, let me introduce myself. Though i have never owned a RE but i have done a lot of biking on the Bullet, especially the old ones. Me and my friend we have biked south india and also done the Delhi-Leh-Delhi on bike. We are avid bikers. I love the Bullet and now i have decided to buy a 500cc RE, want to become a proud owner of one.

    1. I want to know the the pros and cons between the old style RE and the present RE 500?

    2. The RE 500 does it have a lot vibration once it crosses 120 kmph, some of the review say it?

    3. The EFI model in the RE 500 is it better than the old carborator model in the 350? Is it more efficient?

    4. Whats the difference in running cost/ month (maintenance) between the RE 500 and the RE 350?

    5. Since the RE 500 costs a lot of money, which i have saved over a long period of time i need to be absolutely sure of all the pros and cons of the bike. For me its a life time purchase i dont think i will ever again be able to buy another RE in future, and so i need to be absolutely sure what i am venturing into. So pls guide me.

    thanks

    Reply

    • January 8, 2016 at 11:24 pm

      Hi Mahesh,

      Sorry for the delay with reply as I was a bit occupied with holiday season.

      First of all, thanks for your kind appreciation. Buddies like you motivate me to write such long experience posts. 🙂
      Man! Lucky you! Delhi-Leh-Delhi is one of my 2016’s resolution. 😀

      Anyway I will answer your queries in the same order you asked. So, here we go:

      1. I want to know the the pros and cons between the old style RE and the present RE 500?
      >> Few benefits of EFI which you will definitely feel over carb (old style RE):
      • Crisp and instant throttle response (hell indeed) ?
      • No cold starts problems, starts in a light tap to self button.
      • Better spread of power throughout the rev range.
      • UCE engines are way more reliable than Old Cast iron engines. Less maintenance, more life.
      • Less liberations even while red lining the rev. (not that you should do it often)

      2. The RE 500 does it have a lot vibration once it crosses 120 kmph, some of the review say it?
      >> Absolutely correct! I have managed to take my CL500 till ~135 kmph (was a 10 lane highway declined slope) and man I couldn’t stay there for more than 10 seconds. Here’s the honest explaination:
      • REs are not very high rev friendly like it’s Japanese counterparts. It is simply not designed to be raced madly on a highway on speeds upward of 120+ kmph. They don’t make sports bike by any chance, it’s a Cruiser which is meant to be ridden on a cruising speed of 90-100 kmph constantly while enjoying the ride before calling it a day.
      • At 135kmph, the vibrations were so strong that my hands got numb in few seconds and being a heavy cruiser it certainly doesn’t follow law of aerodynamics which doesn’t inspire much confidence on such high speeds.

      So, if you want a cruiser where you can sit and just ride constantly on a 90-100kmph range all day on a well laid tarmac without worrying much about overheating the engine, Classic 500 will suit you nicely. But if you are more of a hot blooded teen, by all means you may be better (or not?!) with a KTM or Honda. Patience is a virtue my friend. 🙂

      3. The EFI model in the RE 500 is it better than the old carborator model in the 350? Is it more efficient?
      >> Read my answer #1 again. That’s the advantage you get over carburettor. Other than that you get a higher cruising speed with better gear ratios.

      In simple terms, if you are planning to go on long tours, just get CL500 as it will serve you better on highways with that extra torque available on-tap. For strictly city riding, CL350 may satisfy your thirst.

      4. What’s the difference in running cost/ month (maintenance) between the RE 500 and the RE 350?
      >> Almost same! I have 2 friends in my society owning CL350s and we all have our service schedule aligned and we are always greeted with almost same bill as you can see above. The one difference you may get is mileage as being a 500cc mill, it is obviously gulps more fossil fuel than it’s younger brother but if ridden nicely, I have seen people getting ~35kmpl which is pretty decent of this engine.

      5. Since the RE 500 costs a lot of money, which i have saved over a long period of time i need to be absolutely sure of all the pros and cons of the bike. For me its a life time purchase i dont think i will ever again be able to buy another RE in future, and so i need to be absolutely sure what i am venturing into. So pls guide me.
      >> Amen. I had exactly same thought when I decided to get my Silver storm. I am planning to ride this bike for it’s full 15 years of lifetime as applicable in Delhi region. I have just celebrated her First anniversary this week, will be writing a post update soon about it. I will suggest you to read all about the bike you can and make sure it aligns with your requirements out of it. You won’t be dissapointed.

      However, if you do decide to get one, make sure you let me know here. If not, still I would love to hear your buying decision and why.

      Happy Riding!

      Cheers,
      Jatin

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      • Mahesh Dewan
        January 9, 2016 at 9:00 am

        Hi Jatin
        thanks for ur reply. I have gone through all ur posts.

        I have some doubt about the EFI Technology, actually some of the Bullet mechanics are dissuading me from buying it, there reason being primarily. EFI is problematic according to them.

        1) The EFI system needs to run on good quality petrol, (speed petrol) which is normally found in the cities, now if i am planning to travel the country with it, or make a trip to the Himalayas, Nepal or Bhutan, it is unlikely that i will find un-adultrated petrol on the highways and so the bike will stop.

        2) If something goes wrong with the EFI system on the highway i cannot get it fixed by a local mechanic, i have to take the bike to a service station, the price you pay for an electronic system!

        I am in love with the bike, but this is the only reason which is making me hesitant to buy the bike, my mechanics tell me you should go ahead and buy the RE Classic 350 or RE Standard 500, they both come with the carborator system…

        I need your inputs especially if you have friends in Delhi who have used the RE Classic 500 for very long distances, their experience and advice. Maybe i am being way too cautious, anticipating things much too in advance…. maybe i should just go ahead and get the bike and not think so much. Anyway hopping to hear from you in this matter.

        Thanks
        Mahesh

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        • January 12, 2016 at 12:05 am

          Hi Mahesh,

          I will just ask you 1 simple question. If you have bought a car in last 10-12 years, just open the hood and see for yourself. Every car in market is coming with Fuel injection. Even all the new bikes Pulsar RS 200, Honda CBR 250, KTM Duke & RC series etc, are fuel injected. It’s a technology so common that every 4 wheeler and high end 2 wheeler equips it since the 90s.

          I will again answer you in the same chronological order asked.

          1) The EFI system needs to run on good quality petrol, (speed petrol) which is normally found in the cities, now if i am planning to travel the country with it, or make a trip to the Himalayas, Nepal or Bhutan, it is unlikely that i will find un-adultrated petrol on the highways and so the bike will stop.
          >> NO! Never top up your new bike/car with Speed petrol. It is actually bad for the engine. I will suggest you to pick up your service manual for any new vehicle, you can read that the company even advices you to use the “Unleaded petrol” (Normal) [1]. Check it for yourself. Also dirty fuel is not likely to kill your fuel pump so easily, again try to remember the last time you heard a car broke down due to bad fuel. All modern vehicles have an oil filter to protect the sensitive components from dirty fuel. [2]

          [1]: https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/why-premium-fuel-is-a-waste-of-money-for-most-cars/
          [2]: https://mobiloil.com/en/article/car-maintenance/basic-car-maintenance-tips/different-types-of-oil-filters-and-how-they-work

          2) If something goes wrong with the EFI system on the highway i cannot get it fixed by a local mechanic, i have to take the bike to a service station, the price you pay for an electronic system!
          >>The chances of that happening are very slim. If you get your machine serviced at regular intervals, almost all the times, only problem you may face on a highway is broken clutch/accelerator wire or empty tank. That’s 99% of usecase of you. For other 1%, well god bless you before your bike on a highway alone. Hope you get my point. 🙂

          Mechanics are still old school boys who don’t know how EFI works. I personally own a Toyota Etios. It is it’s 5th year now approaching 50,000 KMs soon. Guess what? I have just get the service done on regular intervals and not even once it failed me or did I have to show it to any roadside mechanic for engine troubles. The times I have seen a local mechanic is to get the bumper fixed with a screw of a highway or get the battery recharged or tyre puncture. That’s it.

          You are just being too cautious and man, have you seen the list of RE workshops? It’s like Expensive Maruti of bikes. You can get anything repaired/replaced anywhere if you are resourceful.

          So, I will suggest to do take a decision as per your personal needs. Everything else is just secondary.

          Regards,
          Jatin

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          • Mahesh Dewan
            January 12, 2016 at 8:27 am

            Hi jatin
            Everything that you write makes sense.

            1) What about the mileage, does the carborator model of the 500c gives better mileage than the 500cc fuel injection system?

            2) I checked in the owner manual for the 500cc regarding use of petrol. This is what they have written.
            USE RECOMMENDED FUELS AND OILS ONLY
            Always use recommended (unleaded > 87 octane petrol) and oils only.
            Wrong grade and inferior quality oils do not lubricate well. The moving parts wear prematurely.
            Wrong grade or adulterated petrol does not burn fully and results in heavy smoke, high rate of carbon deposition in cylinder and exhaust system and low mileage.

            What do you have to say to this?

            Thanks
            Mahesh

            Reply

            • January 12, 2016 at 11:07 pm

              1. What about the mileage, does the carburetor model of the 500c gives better mileage than the 500cc fuel injection system?
              >> Not too sure about that, but it should be around same ~28-32 in City depending upon your riding style. The one benefit you get with EFI is that the ECU maps calculate and determine the amount of fuel entering in combustion chamber depending upon your gear, throttle, ambient temperature etc. which leads to a great pickup and a torquey ride. In the case of curb, the injectors are tuned manually to act same in all conditions which may cause a bit of knocking and lag while pushing bike with full throttle. This may lead to a better FE in EFI models but again not by a huge margin.

              However, it’s a small engine per say, so the effect is minimal and if you are a novice rider, you may not even notice it.

              2. I checked in the owner manual for the 500cc regarding use of…..carbon deposition in the cylinder and exhaust system and low mileage.
              >> Well, I am not a Petroleum Engineer by any means but I read a lot. Use of poor quality (adulterated with kerosene or similar) will always lead to a faster wear and tear of your engine, but if you live in a metro city, I am not sure you can expect that level of adulteration as the norms are pretty strict now. Also, the engines we use are just not tuned for High octane fuels. Unless you are planning to buy Yamaha R1 kinda superbike, splurging extra bucks for premium gives no return.

              Also, I read the following piece on a blog last year. Though you may like to read it.
              How can IOC extra premium / HP Power / BP Speed may cause damage to normal bikes ?
              All of the Enfields have an air-cooled engine right on bellow the petrol tank.
              The extra premium petrol sold in India comes mixed with synthetic additives.
              A lot of riding in 40(deg)C plus heat in a busy metro or big city day riding with higher RPMs.

              In certain extreme condition, when all these comes together,
              Like from 10 AM to 2 PM in scorching heat where you run at low gear but higher RPM. The engine doesn’t get much air to cool down and heats up extensively. This engine heat rises up towards the petrol tank and thus warming it up.

              Assuming the petrol tank is having a low amount of fuel.
              Due to extreme heat in the petrol tank, the bond of these additives and petrol gets to loosen up. Additives are heavier than petrol and when they are detached from petrol in liquid form, they subside. If your fuel level is low and the bike is in reserve, it is possible that the petrol suction nostril suck-in the heavier additives rather than petrol and when engine try to burn the fuel, it actually ends up burning the additives instead of fuel.
              This is very harmful to valves and piston rings. Similar to what would happen when burning poor quality petrol.
              This said action is rare but when all these above-mentioned factors come together, it may create this situation for your machine.


              I hope the points above answer your questions well. Let me know if you have a follow up for same.

              Happy Riding.
              – Jatin

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            • Mahesh Dewan
              January 17, 2016 at 9:40 am

              Hi Jatin
              Wanted to check with you about running in period for the bike, as per the manual 1st service 500… 2nd service 3000km or 3 months.

              How important it is to complete 3k before i give it for 2nd service, since the time limit is 3 months which is quite steep? Common sense would say its always better to complete the recommended kms before giving it for servicing.

              RE recommends Royal Enfield 15 W 50 API SL Engine Oil (JASO MA), for engine oil change, and they also recommend to change oil every 3.5k. But i have read in the review that oil change can be done every 5k, and some have recommended Motul 5100 15w 50 / or Motul 3000 4tplus 15w 50 grade oil for engine oil change. Whats your input on this matter? which oil do you use?
              Thanks
              mahesh

              Reply

              • January 20, 2016 at 9:59 am

                Hi Mahesh,

                The first service is really important, as it involves the Engine oil change for the first time.

                When the bike is in running in period, the pistons are getting used to moving in the combustion chamber. The initial oil gets shreds of metal as when Engine heats up the metal expands and grind against the walls of an engine. That is why, it is recommended to change the oil as soon as you hit 500 clicks, as most of the shaping up is done by the time. It is a gradual process, that’s why it is recommended to drive under 50 kmph so as to avoid instant expansion of piston rings on high speeds (hence high temperature in the chamber), which may lead to it’s deformation.

                As per the latter services, well that depends on you. As the second service is 3 months is from purchase date, it comes around 2 months from First service. I am not aware of any rule of thumb of completing recommended km before giving it for servicing. It is really not possible to do that in Winters of Delhi. 🙂

                RE uses a blended (semi-synthetic) oil. 3.5k km is the ideal interval though you can stretch up to 5k km but it is not recommended in the initial life of an engine. Later after 10k km, you can switch to Motul synthetic oil which will ensure smoothness of your engine along with longer oil-change intervals.

                For me, I have just completed some odd 6500 km in last 1 year. I am still running the stock engine oil and change it on every alternate service (6 months). One of my friend, who owns a Classic 350, recently shifted to Motul 15w 50 has reported some positive insights about feedback from engine.

                Cheers,
                Jatin

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                • Mahesh dewan
                  January 27, 2016 at 3:18 pm

                  Hi jatin
                  RE recommends unleaded normal petrol, 87 octane. Though some people say u should use speed petrol, 90 octane, it gives better engine performance and mileage. What’s your suggestion, which one do you use?

                  Do have any idea when RE is coming out with the squadron blue color for the 500cc? I am interested in this color and am still waiting for it. Have u heard anything about it at ur end?

                  Th
                  Mahesh

                  Reply

                  • February 3, 2016 at 9:11 am

                    I use the plain Unleaded one as I wrote above.

                    Well not sure about Squadron blue, but we can expect it in Q1 as per RE’s previous year strategy. Since Royal Enfield is not participating in the 2016 Auto Expo in Greater Noida in February, hence these 2016 models are not to be expected at the show. 🙁

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                    • Mahesh Dewan
                      February 3, 2016 at 3:32 pm

                      Hi Jatin
                      I have always wondered why RE 500cc category of bikes dont come with back disc brakes. Most say that the drum brakes are quite useless and that RE could have easily introduced back disc brakes, especially when you are paying close to 2L and above.

                      What your input on this matter?

                      Infact i have somewhere read that RE is trying to compete with the low end Harleys, even they come with double disc brakes.

                      th


                    • February 14, 2016 at 1:35 pm

                      Well, Thunderbird does come with Rear disk but it doesn’t provide a great feedback. IMHO I feel if you are going for Dual disc, ABS should be mandatory because nothing is worse than an emergency breaking leading to dual tyre lock. 🙂

                      RE should really do the basics like Tubeless tyre, Dual Disc, ABS etc now without any excuses.


                    • Anurag
                      June 25, 2016 at 8:54 pm

                      Jatin bhai. .. superb knowledge penned down in simple words …Thanks bro… well to start with I have been using high octane fuel with add on boosters ..I have classic 500 efi gets hot fraction of mins..using motul 300v 15w50 full synthetic engine oil… a little amount of oil marks found in exhaust tip. . ?.. well is it normal ..no loss of power.. kindly guide
                      Anurag


                    • July 16, 2016 at 9:16 pm

                      Hi Anurag,

                      Thanks for your kind words. 🙂

                      You really should not use high octane fuel as it is doing more harm to your engine than good. Our bikes are tuned for Unleaded petrol only. You can read the same in your service manual too.
                      Regarding engine oil, Motul 300v 15w50 is an excellent oil. One of my friends is using the same from a year now with no such issue. Oil marks on exhaust tip could be due to some other reason. I will suggest you to take a trip to a nearby service station and get your bull checked.

                      Happy Riding,
                      Jatin


  • Suganthan
    December 25, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    Bro i wanted to go for RE CL350 / TB 350 dad wasnt satisfied in classic 350 bec f of severe vibration , tb wasnt suiting me bec of my long hand n elbow was feeling diff for local commuting but then service manager known to me suggested try out CL 500 and it was charm felt so good with little strain in wrist/palm. Have booked for CL 500 still in confusion reg color to go fro tan or black service manager told incase of anythng it will be diff to get parts / painted as TAN s rarely bought and reselling may be diff n resale value for this color too pbm but black is standard ,
    next have seen many complaining that EFI is a failure in RE and its life is too less and often problematic not good as carburetor ones. so am in a confusion whether to proceed buying CL 500 or not seeing more negative complaints. can u pls help me put ??

    Reply

    • December 27, 2015 at 4:04 pm

      Hello Suganthan,

      Welcome to Bitsnappers.

      Well, I am not sure how you felt difference in riding position in Classic 350 and Classic 500, as they basically share the same chassis and body frame. I always suggest people to ride a bike at at least 3 service centres as there are a lot of factors deciding your ride quality and your dealer’s bike may not be in the best condition for you to experience that. Though I agree there is a lot of difference in riding dynamics in Classic 350 & 500 as 500 pulls like a locomotive engine (so much torque).

      Anyways, I am not really sure if your color choice will impact the resale value by alot if you are planning on keeping the bike for a long term. It is true that Black is the most popular colors which is mostly backed by a hefty waiting period most of the time. I am really not sure about the parts and repaint thing. I would suggest you to consult with another service centre. as IMO this is laughable that a Royal Enfield personal is telling you that you may not be able to get parts for their own bike. 😛

      EFI (Fuel pump) fails all the time in different bikes, be it Pulsar, Duke etc but most of the times, it is a manufacturing defect which is replaceable under warranty. Other than that, It also depends a lot on quality of fuel you are feeding to your bike. If it’s dirty fuel with a lot of adulteration, there is a filter before fuel pump which starts filling up. If that filter starts blocking fuel’s access to the Engine via Fuel pump, your Fuel pump may overheat and cause trouble to your bike like Stalling and irregular performance.

      It’s been 1 year since my ownership of Classic 500 and I am yet to face any kind of trouble. I make sure to keep changing the fuel station while filling her up so as to keep the fuel quality inconsistent in case anyone is doing any adulteration. EFI troubles are over hyped in my opinion as Classic 500 comes with Keihin Electronic Fuel Injection which is a world class product. You get tap-on-throttle as EFI calculates the amount of fuel entering the engine combustion chamber for maximum efficiency and therefore provides better mileage than Carb. You can read more about same at: https://goo.gl/bHe5Wl

      Let me know if I can help you with anything else.

      Cheers,
      Jatin

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  • VARUN MP
    December 24, 2015 at 12:43 am

    Hey bro…that was a great review about the RE 500…. I am definitely going to buy this bike.by January or February.
    I just have a question… I am from Coimbatore, Tamilnadu….. I M planning to ride up till ahmedabad and back (3800kms approx ) both ways… Will RE 500 CLASSIC be good for this type of ride?

    Reply

    • December 27, 2015 at 3:48 pm

      Hi Varun,

      Welcome to the RE Club. 😎

      Well, when are you planning to ride? Immediately upon delivery? If yes, It would be one hell of an adventure but may not be very convenient for you because of following reasons:

      1. You will need to keep your bullet ~50kmph for Running in period which can be pretty difficult on Highways.
      2. It is not recommended to ride it for a continuously long period of time before the first service (Engine oil change) so you will have to take break between every 1 hours for 10 minutes for engine to cool down.
      3. Also, in running in period, you should not ride on idle throttle. Throttle should vary from Low RPM to High RPM for engine’s piston to work efficiently and break in the extra metal in engine bore for smooth drive. But you should avoid opening throttle more than 1/2 cycle to avoid prolong damage to piston’s before first service.

      Quoting from Service manual:

      Since the engine is brand new, it should not be loaded excessively for the first 2,000 kms. During the first few hundred kms, the various parts in the engine wear and polish themselves to the correct operating clearances. Driving with prolonged full throttle operation, or any high speed conditions might result in excessive heating of the engine and cause abnormal wear of the moving parts and hence must be avoided.

      So, I would suggest you to avoid the trip but if it is absolute necessary well I planned a rough itinerary for you.

      1. Hoping you will be taking NH4 + NH7 for your route. I would suggest you to ride to Bangalore (~400 kms) as per the points above. It will take you a full day if you leave early and take sufficient breaks for engine to cool down and maintain ~50kmph of speed. Get your first service done in Bangalore so 400 kms of highway riding should be enough for engine’s wear and tear to happen.
      2. Next day begin on same route and try riding for 500-600kms (if you have prior biking cruising experience) else aim for less. Make a stoppage as some decent town. Repeat the same until you reach the destination.
      3. I will suggest you to follow common sense and don’t ride out in night. Always carry extra fuel for the bike and water for yourself to provide dehydration.
      4. Take extra spares (Clutch, Accelerator wire along with a spark plug) from Bangalore service centre and learn to replace them so you can help yourself in the need as these are the most common parts to go bad on a long ride.
      5. Take proper rest every night before starting for the ride next day. Trust me, there is nothing more scary than being drowsy on a 2 wheeler on a Highway!
      6. Always plan your day ahead.

      Try to keep the same route on your way back and by the time you will reach Bangalore again, your ODO will read ~3000 clicks which is time for second service. Get it done. Stay for a night there. Start fresh next morning and get back to Coimbatore.

      Make sure you share your experience with us.
      Ride safe. Happy clicking.

      – Jatin

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  • Chandramouli ghosh
    December 20, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    I’m planning to buy a second hand re classic 500…2014 model… Please tell me what are the things I should check before buying

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  • Vinayak
    December 19, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    Hi Jatin,
    Really im impressed with your review about RE 500. I’m gonna buy RE500 next month.. What are all your suggestions about this.?

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  • Pijush
    December 12, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    Hi.. Thanks for sharing your experience on 500 Classic beast.. I recently bought classic 500 chrome (26/12/2015 ).. Was super excited about the beast until my first servicing..1)started missing the beat.. 2)Engine gets off as I slow down..3)black smoke if I throttle more.. 4) horrible response of service center..5)efi indicator use to light up by its own..
    I am really upset coz of all these after spending a whole lot of bucks. Can u suggest some solutions? M really in love with the beast with beauty but stressed coz of these problems..
    Please help bro.. Waiting for your reply.. Take care

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    • December 14, 2015 at 8:59 pm

      Hi Pijush (Piyush?),

      I think you mean 26/12/2014* or 26/11? 🙂
      Let me reply to you in-line as per your points.

      1. Started missing the beat..
      >> I think this should have been resolved after first service. I had this issue too in first 500 kms of my Bull. Got resolved when they changed Engine oil. Do you still have that problem?

      2. Engine gets off as I slow down..
      >> Fixable. Just get your Idle RPM tuned by the RE guy. He will fix it up for you in 3 minutes. If that doesn’t resolves your issue, then it could be due to bad spark plugs, which I doubt would be the issue. Keep me updated if Idle RPM fix this for you.

      3. Black smoke if I throttle more..
      >> Oh boy! Where are you located? What is the condition of the spark plug (do they have black carbon deposit)?
      You might need to get the fuel injection system checked at the Service centre for tuning (Air-Fuel adjustment). Black smoke is mostly due to engine running rich. You must have noticed golden colouration on Bent pipe too (near your right foot-peg).

      4. Horrible response of service centre..
      >> Trust me! Write a brief email to customerservice@royalenfield.com explaining everything in vivid detail and keep your service center email id (get it here) in cc. You service centre will call you and request you to come once and they will resolve all your problems. Tried & tested. Unless you pull the leash, they don’t take their customers seriously. 😉

      5. EFI indicator use to light up by its own
      >> Well, that could be as simple as a loose wire or it can be malfunctioning of some component in your bike. Are you sure it’s the EFI indicator and not the fuel reserve indication, because that’s the own which starts blinking when fuel is approaching the reserve. If not, I would suggest you to check the code chart I just made for you below:

      MIL code troubleshooting


      I understand you feeling bro. Classic 500 is not cheap. Spending ~₹2 lacs and still not having peace of mind is irritating. I think the answer above may help you to improve your experience and trust me bike will grow on you as the time pass. I will recommend you to read a little about how bikes and engines work. It’s fun and you will sound not like a n00b when talking to the service centre personal as they will try their best to fool you by saying shit like “Sir, 500 cc bike hai, clutch to tight he hoga”. 😀

      Rest, feel free to ask for help here if needed.

      Cheers,
      Jatin

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  • December 10, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    Hey jatin,
    i am owning a classic 500….so iam planning to go for long ride almost 400-500 km…..what are the safety precautions i should do for my beast……As this is my first long ride……!!

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    • December 13, 2015 at 3:15 pm

      Hi Rahul!

      Sorry for the late reply, was out of station myself. So buddy, before planning a ~500 km ride, tell me have you ride the bike for 100-200 kms before? Or you are directly planning for this long ride, because that will change a lot of things.

      Still, you can find a lot of great guides and precaution lists on X-Bhp but still I am quoting some of the important ones for you below:

      1. Always plan your route. Pin point some of the key POI (points of interests). If you have a smartphone, I will suggest you to download Here Maps and Offline install the maps for the whole state you are going to. This will be of incredible help when you are lost, in an emergency, need fuel for yourself or the bike. You can then quickly look up and navigate to the place without depending on the mobile data.

      2. Never carry your baggage on your back. It will screw up your spine! Just get some saddle bags or get a rope and tie the hell out of your bag to the pillion seat. This way you will be stress free when riding the Bull and won’t be dead tired at the end of the day.

      3. Always carry spares! Make sure you put in 1 spark plug, 1 Clutch wire, 1 Accelerator wire, 1-2 lts of Petrol for extreme emergencies in your baggage. Power bank is a great option but also carry a spare basic fully charged Nokia like device in your bag. You will thanks me if you are going to a remote place. Better be safe than sorry. 🙂

      4. Avoid riding after the sunset if you had been driving through out the day as during night time a lot of commercial vehicles enter the city and you require more concentration to ride it safe, which won’t be your best bet if you are tired.

      5. Always wear safety gear when going on a long trip outside the city. Make sure you buy good quality biking gloves, a full face helmet and waterproof boots so as to enjoy your ride safely.

      6. Ride calmly. Respect the lorry and bigger vehicles. Over aggression may get you in harm. 🙂

      7. Make sure you get a good inspection from your local qualified mechanic so any issues with your bullet. Check for Engine oil levels, Break fluid, Clutch free play and wire, Battery health etc. Don’t be callous and think if something is not right, it won’t fail you. Trust me, it will. That’s the power of Murphy’s law.

      8. Click a lot of snaps but just don’t make the trip solely about that. Take you time, sit and appreciate the beauty of nature.

      Make your trip worth it! Happy miles bro. 😎

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  • Shreyas Sawant
    December 7, 2015 at 10:30 am

    Okay so.. 1.Will u suggest classic 500 to anyone?
    2.Rate out of 10…
    3.What are precautions need to b taken for classic 500 before and after buying it?
    4.Any tips about accessories?
    5. How the riding should be? ( Coz m a rash rider)
    More questions to come.
    Congratulations on your massive knowledge about classic 500. Hope you reply soon.

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    • December 8, 2015 at 11:52 am

      1. Yes! I will depending on the requirements of a person. If you are an individual who likes stability and likes to enjoy little things in life .Enfield is for you. If young/hot blooded kinda boy, go for KTM 🙂

      2. 8/10 (-1 for abysmal after sales service, -1 for Rust which is inevitable)

      3. I have a PDI (Pre-delivery inspection) list below in the comments. I would suggest you to save it and check with same on delivery date. 🙂

      4. A leg guard is a MUST! It will save you, your life and the bike in case of any mishappening. You can also go for a backrest as the pillion seat is not very comfortable and your friend may complain about it on long distances.

      5. Ahan! Rash rider! Don’t go for bullet. Inspite of having a superb pickup in CL500, it is still no where near to the Japanese bikes. Classic carries a long stroke bore engine, which is not actually meant to drive rest. It has it’s own benefits on long routes and highways as you can literally idle your bike on 90kmph and it won’t overheat as compared to other bikes. Plus it’s more comfortable. But if you want to ride rash (with no regard of your own life or other’s) go for KTM RC 390, it’s a rocket 😎

      If you have any more questions, keep them coming mate. 🙂

      Cheers,
      Jatin

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  • Shreyas Sawant
    December 5, 2015 at 12:43 am

    I am buying the same Royal Enfield Classic 500 Silver. I would like to try talk on phone. Can i please get your number?

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  • Jitin N
    November 15, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    Hi Jatin,
    Truly appreciate your time you took out to pen down your experience on service with North Delhi motorcycles.
    I too went there for 1st service and made fool of 1700 rs..I have not gone back for 2nd till now.
    I just wanted to check, if the golden color spot on silencer near the kick was resolved by them and how.
    I reported this problem during 1st service and they said it is common in some bikes and cannot be corrected.
    Should it not be replaced during 1year itself?
    Thanks
    Jitin

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    • December 7, 2015 at 10:11 am

      Hi Jitin!

      Well it’s pretty common in Classic 500 ( I have seen it in almost all of them). I think stock map of ECU is to be blamed here which leads to retarded ignition timing resulting in carbon deposition.

      I think if you threaten them enough, they may replace it only for you to find the problem reappearing again in few days/weeks. I have made peace with it, probably you should too. 🙂

      Cheers,
      Jatin K Malik

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  • rahul
    October 28, 2015 at 10:27 am

    Thanks for the ownership report,I had driven motorbikes extensively over time and i was planning to upgrade to RE but your report makes me think twice about the after sales service,I would consider looking into another stable and move away from RE.

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    • October 29, 2015 at 10:46 pm

      Hi Rahul. As I said, it’s purely dependent on the dealership and the workshop you go to for your initial services.

      Also, let us know, which bike are you considering next? Mahindra Mojo looks good for a sports cruiser! 😉

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  • GAUTAM sharma
    October 26, 2015 at 11:51 am

    I just booked my Classic 350 (Ash White). With waiting period of 2 moths. So the delivery will be next year 2016.

    1. What do you think of that color. As I still have time to change the color request.

    2. What I want to know is how much petrol is provided by the dealer when the bike is delivered…??? As I heard many people saying that RE has the policy of filling the tank till the reserve light is switched off by itself, but my dealer said they will only provide 1.5l of petrol.

    ???????????

    What should I expect.

    3. Also please provide customer service number of RE as I tried to contact them but the guy on other hand told me that he is technical guy and can’t answer my question and call some other time. I was like HELL! THIS IS BULLSHIT!

    Also can provide the email address you used for complaining and the names and emails of the officials you informed about your issues. That will be helpful.

    Thanks

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    • October 26, 2015 at 1:55 pm

      Hey Gautam!

      Congratulations! Trust me waiting period is the hardest but probably worth it! 😀
      I will answer your query one-by-one in same order you asked.

      1. What do you think of that color. As I still have time to change the color request.
      ASH color is super badass! It looks like a cop bike. Just get a blue-red strobe installed and no one will overtake you like ever. 😎
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtL5btOkQLk

      2. What I want to know is how much petrol is provided by the dealer when the bike is delivered…??? As I heard many people saying that RE has the policy of filling the tank till the reserve light is switched off by itself, but my dealer said they will only provide 1.5l of petrol
      Well, Classic 500 has a reserve capacity of 2 litres. 1.5 litres would be just enough to take the bike from showroom to nearest petrol pump. I had a talk with a Senior guy in RE, he said that’s the general policy now. So make sure to fill her upto brim as soon as you get the delivery.
      ProTip: Do make sure that you fill her up as soon as reserve hits because Classic 500 uses fuel injection, where a fuel pump determines the amount of fuel & air mixture to enter the engine. So, Petrol also acts like a coolant for the fuel pump. Make sure you never push your bike to limits in reserve as prolong running with low fuel and then trying to start the bike empty may result in damage of fuel pump. Trust me, it’s costly AF.

      3. Also please provide customer service number of RE as I tried to contact them but the guy on other hand told me that he is technical guy and can’t answer my question and call some other time. I was like HELL! THIS IS BULLSHIT!
      Well this should work:

      Else you can always contact your dealership, he should be more than happy to help! 🙂


      Let me know if you have any other query.
      Happy riding mate and make sure you always gear up and follow traffic rules.
      Enfield is for men, not immature boys.
      Just my $0.02. 🙂

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      • GAUTAM sharma
        October 26, 2015 at 2:29 pm

        Those strobe lights are awesome. I will surely have them installed.

        One more thing is bothering me, or I should say it is not letting me sleep.

        Although I ordered for Classic 350. I had test drive of Classic 500. And that feel, when you pull the accelerator and the bike pushes you backwards and that power. OMG……!!!!
        I had never drove any of enfields except the standard 350. And just after riding the Classic 500 for around a kilometer, I stopped and hand over the bike to the dealer who was sitting behind me and said that it is awesome and I will crash it for sure because of the goosebumps I am feeling at the moment.

        What I want to ask, is the experience same in Classic 350 too. Or it is not????? I hope it will be, if not that awesome.

        Thanks

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        • October 26, 2015 at 4:11 pm

          Haha! Okay I misread that you booked 350.

          Well since 500 is EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) you get tap-on-throttle. Just give accelerator a flick and it plunges forward like there is no tomorrow. 350 also has good torque and hp, but it’s more of a relaxed engine as it has carburettor which has manual fixed tuning. So, the amount of air+fuel mixture remains constant depending upon the RPM you are revving on.

          Both the bikes are excellent to drive in City but on highway Classic 500 feels a bit better as it can do easy take-overs and could cruise at higher speed. Other than that, both bikes are pretty much identical.

          But still, 350 has crazy pickup if you are coming from Pulsar, Karizma etc. It feel very powerful to ride. 😎

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  • Amit Chugh
    October 21, 2015 at 11:30 am

    Dude you have way too much patience!You should have complained the very first time and shown them that after spending 1.85 lacs you definitely have rights to proper service and problem solving. I bought a Classic 500 in Pune, Brahma Motors and since the very first service they have been providing me with full satisfaction be it attitude or addressing the problems I was facing(not that there were any major ones) As a consumer you have full right to get the best service and if not change you service centre immediately and initmate the Company, I am sure they will be glad to help. But all in all the Classic 500 experience has been awesome. Riding it gives pure pleasure and feeling of ultimate bliss. Loving every moment on it! Take care and happy biking!

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    • October 26, 2015 at 1:36 pm

      Hello Amit,
      I agree with every bit you have written above. As a customer, if I am paying for some service, I deserve to get the best one. I was a bit sceptical at first, but I got my issues resolved. Communication is the key.

      Classic 500 has been hell of a ride for me too. It super comfortable and torque is produces is very addictive. Its a beast on both highway and in the city.

      Happy Biking mate!

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  • Siddhant Gautam
    September 14, 2015 at 11:50 pm

    Hey Jatin… that was really a good read. I have too booked a classic 350 silver on 2nd september.. waiting period 1.5 months.. 🙁 I just can’t wait for it to be delivered.. Don’t know why but every bullet on road seems to draw my attention towards it..well i think that’s just anxiety.. Just keep posting about your experience with Royal enfield. 🙂
    PS- Bajaj Chetak Space Grey 😛

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    • September 24, 2015 at 5:33 pm

      Hey Siddhant!
      Congrats man. The waiting period is the toughest. 🙁
      Royal Enfield is selling these machines like hot cakes. I see a lot of REs on road in Delhi now.

      Sure. I will keep posting my experience and expense report. 😀

      p.s: Trust me, *That* Space Grey was way cheaper than the present one! Ha!

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  • J Singh
    August 28, 2015 at 10:42 am

    The folklores make people believe in stupidest magics and heros who were probably not.
    I suspect. most of the young bullet owners have read poetry in magazines about it. Like Harleys, Bullet is already sold before it is bought. Consider this:
    1.
    Here is a bike which hasn’t changed much since it was first designed a few thousand years ago. Nothing wrong with it a design may be aesthetically enduring for that much time, still it was designed when roads, traffic and distances were different. Remember that.
    And yes, I have a friend who still types on his old Remington typewriter. Typing on a computer keyboard is not fun enough. Its too soft and he loves the thumping sound of typewriter buttons. And besides swinging it back and forth for each line keeps his wrists active (?). Then the fun of using that white liquid eraser each time he makes a spell mistake. The certainty that his letter will not be copied and no virus will ever come into his machine…except that he keeps repairing it most of the time which he says is fun and better than spending time on TV. But he says once it is fixed and when it is fixed, just hearing that tick tick sound on the machine makes him forget all the repairing. And there is more, the pain in the bones in his fingers doesn’t let him sleep, but keeps reminding him of his beautiful machine..at length he says he sleeps with my machine’s thoughts on my mind and plans about buying more carbon papers and ribbons. It costs not nearly as much you see as a printer’s ink.
    I know another person who wouldn’t let go his Blackberry……..
    And one old man I knew said he makes his own whiskey. His doctors told him that his liver now hangs on thin threads and his whiskey is no more than a poison, still he said, “Pahli Dhaar ki peene ka maza hi kuchh aur hai” No matter what the costs are.

    2.
    It comes without Tubeless tyres. Now it is a fact that the tubed tyre flattens so quickly. Sometimes in seconds. And if you are on a certain speed, lets say 70 KMPL, you are likely to suffer and more.
    3.
    For the given price, it does not come with an ABS. Given its design for a max 50 KMPL (may be) speed, and usually driven hard to convince oneself about one’s macho attitude, it will make you lick dust if you suddenly face oil on road or even a heavily wet surface.
    4.
    The paint is lousy at the best and it will rust sooner than later.
    5.
    For daily commute, its a pain, absolutely in cities like Delhi. The saddle seat that comes with Classic, will numb your buttocks and bring swelling to your lower back, if driven for a longer period.
    6.
    It is expansive to maintain. service and petrol. Not counting productive days lost at service station or without bike when it stays useless.
    7.
    The aftersale service will almost certainly have you suffer rude behaviour, unsatisfactory workmanship and frustration. But the folklore and poetry by the fellow bullet owners keeps you in a fool’s paradise.
    8.
    It looks a few years old when you buy it new Its true it remains the same for ever.
    9.
    Riding a bullet makes you feel brave. But there is a very thin line, sometimes in between bravery and foolhardiness. Well I think it takes courage to accept a mistake. It will be brave to face the truth and call it a beautiful but useless bike.
    10.
    Its difficult to start and idle speed troubles makes you afraid and you usually don’t risk killing engine at traffic lights. It will be too embarrassing to kick it to life again. 2 or 20 0r 200 kicks, you never know.

    11.
    You say the experience of riding bullet is unique. So be it. But when compared with costs and sufferings that come with it, one has to be irrational.

    12.
    The tiny drum brakes in the rear tyre is not going to save your life when it will be supposed to.

    13.
    The wobble in tyres and dangerous for you.

    14.
    The long silencer can send you into a hospital for long if you, by mistake inclined too much.

    15.
    You will smell of oil and grease. Not everyone finds it sexy. Actually no one.

    Head turner? Drive a R15 or the new RS200 and see how those bikes turn heads and get you compliments.
    A bike must start when you want it. turn as you want it. Stop as you want it. It must look new when you buy it and should require servicing as expected not wantonly.

    Its a thing of the past. It gone. Dont beat round the bush. Try something new.
    its a pity Harleys are expansive. Although they suffer from similar traits. they are still better bikes.
    But Japanese bikes are way ahead and so much fun.

    No offenses intended. Apologies in advance if my post did.

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    • J Singh
      August 28, 2015 at 10:49 am

      last but not the least, some people may believe that the auto tempos and bullet share the same engine..so much for the sound..
      Oops. Sorry. .

      …One more thing..
      I saw someone writing a long check-list before taking delivery of a bullet.
      Is it fair?

      If you bought a CBR 250 or a Ninja or recently a Yamaha 300, or even a KTM, a Unicorn…. I can assure you, you will not need to carry a checklist.

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      • August 29, 2015 at 1:03 am

        Whoa. 😀 Now that’s some rant here! Most of the things you mentioned above don’t hold true for the new generation, like in my 8 months of ownership not once had the self-start failed me, it comes to life in one go. Also why would you try to incline a cruiser on curves is beyond my understanding.

        If you read the article above, I have visited the workshop 5 times till now. 4 for the service and 1 for the alignment issue which is pretty trivial IMHO. RE has a legacy to carry, so don’t expect a modern aerodynamics design from them.

        I agree to your rant about Tubeless tyres, because my car has them and yes it is super convenient, though I am yet to face a puncture on my CL500 (Let’s hope it stays that way..). True again for the ABS part, but you have to understand the point, it’s not mean to ride screaming past 150 kmph. It’s a cruiser, I have gone till 130 kmph on my classic and yes, honestly it was not inspiring at all. It was super scary, RC 390 feels way better on those digits in speedo. 😎

        As per after sales service, ha! I have had pleasure of owning multiple bikes and cars, and trust me it’s uneven. My dad is super fed up of Maruti Suzuki service for his car and he openly claims it’s the worst despite the general opinion being other way around. So, it’s the same way for most of brands. Depends on multiple factors. You just can’t generalise something based on a stereotype. 🙂

        No smell of Oil or Grease. Trust me, I am allergic and would have sold the bike if that was the case. Paint quality is fine though their chrome plating sucks! Rust is a major issue due to extra-ordinary use of metal. Duly noted.

        So Mr Singh, I don’t know if your motive was to offend me or something with the rant above. Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am noty offended, just amusedt amused. Honestly I am not a fanboy and I really don’t care. I used a Lumia 1520 (WP developer here) for 2 years, now I am using iPhone 6 and I may buy a Nexus 5 2015 in Nov when it launch. As you can see, customer is the king here. We are free to make choices as they fit us. Being a guy with a height of 6’2″ I find Royal Enfield Classic 500 to be super comfortable. I take it to my office ~3 times a week which is around 41 KMs one-side.

        p.s: I took a print out of checklist while taking delivery for my Toyota Etios too. So does it mean Toyota is a bad company? Hell, it’s the top manufacturer of the segment across the globe. Carrying a checklist just signifies how aware as a customer I am. Just my $0.02 🙂

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        • J Singh
          August 31, 2015 at 10:53 am

          Whoa. Now that’s some rant here! Most of the things you mentioned above don’t hold true for the new generation, like in my 8 months of ownership not once had the self-start failed me, it comes to life in one go.
          I AM HAPPY FOR YOU. I WONDER WHY BULLET RIDERS DO NOT KILL THE ENGINES AT THE RED LIGHTS. GUESS I AM WORNG. GOOD FOR YOU MY FRIEND.
          Also why would you try to incline a cruiser on curves is beyond my understanding.
          ITS NOT A SHARP RACE TRACK INCLINE THAT I REFERRED TO, IT’S THE JUST ABOVE INCLINE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO USE IN DAILY DELHI LIFE, PARTICULALY AT RIGHT ANGLED TURNING WHILE OVERTAKING. A 10 TO 15 DEGREES INCLINE MAY NOT BE FORGIVING. BUT YOU ARE THE BETTER JUDGE.

          If you read the article above, I have visited the workshop 5 times till now. 4 for the service and 1 for the alignment issue which is pretty trivial IMHO.
          ALIGNEMENT IS NOT A TRIVIAL ISSUE. WITH RE IT IS NOT AN ISOLATED ISSUE EITHER. MANY OWNERS COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. IT TELLS YOU WHERE IT IS COMING FROM. ALIGNEMENT CAN BE A SERIOUS ISSUE, WE ALL KNOW THAT AND SERIOUS BEYOND A SMALL NIGGLE. PRE LOADING INSPECTION MUST ENSURE THE ALIGNEMENT IS IN ORDER. SINCE IT IS NOT A BIG TECH HIGH TECH PROCEDURE, IT TELLS YOU THAT RE DOESN’T REALLY THINK VERY MUCH ABOUT THE CUSTOMER WHO IS BUYING IT WITH SO MUCH LOVE AND DREAY EYES. ITS HEART BREAKING. LOVE MUST BE RETURNED.
          RE has a legacy to carry, so don’t expect a modern aerodynamics design from them.
          I AGREE. BUT CARRYING A LEGACY DOES NOT MEAN, YOU OVERLOOK INNOVATION. OR THE NEED OF THE HOUR. TAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE TRIUMPH OF ENGLAND. THEY CARRY A LEGACY TOO. BUT AFTER SUFFERING A DEFEAT AT THE HANDS OF JAPANESE BIKES IN ALL DEPARTMENTS, EXCEPT MAY BE LOOKS, AND CHANGE OF HANDS AT OWNERSHIPS A FEW TIMES, THEY SAT DOWN AND THOUGHT HARD. THEIR TOP BRASS WENT AND CAMPED IN JAPAN. THERE THEY VISITED ALL MAJOR FACTORIES AND OEM MAKERS. AFTERRETURNING THEY INCORPORATED ALL NECESSARY CHANGES, (EXACTLY AS THE JAPANESE BIKES) AND RELAUNCHED THE BIKES WITHOUT CHANGING THE CHARACTER SO AS TO CARRY THE LOOKS OR LEGACY. RE HAS INTRODUCED EFI. IF I AM NOT WRONG, ITS JAPANESE TOO. YOU DO NEED DYNAMICS IN DESIGN INCLUDING AIR RESISTENCE SINCE THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED ARE CHANGING. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IS GETTING A ERFORMANCE GUARANTEE WHILE ENJOYING THE LOOKS AND STYLE AND OF COURSE SOUND.

          I agree to your rant about Tubeless tyres, because my car has them and yes it is super convenient, though I am yet to face a puncture on my CL500 (Let’s hope it stays that way..).
          IF YOU AGREE WITH ME, YOU CAN NOT POSSIBLY CALL IT A RANT. A TUBELESS TYRE CAN BE LIFE SAVING TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT ALLOWING YOU TO JUST PUMP THE AIR IN A LEAKING TYRE AND LETTING YOU GO ON THOSE FEW MILES TO HAVE THE PROPER FIX CAN SAVE YOU A LOTS OF TROUBLE INCLUDING PUSHING THE BIKE. AGAIN THIS IS NOT A HIGH TECH PROBLEM. RE COULD FIX IT LONG AGO. THEY CANT HIDE BEHINDTHE FACT THAT MRF OR OTHERS ARE NOT MAKING 19″ RIM MATCH. NOW THEY HAVE CHANGED TO 18″ AND THAT OPENS THE OPTIONS TO FIT A TUBELESS SOMEHOW. SO IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, THIS REEKS OF A RECKLESS CARE TO HOOT ATTITUDE ON PART OF THE RE,MORE SO WHEN PEOPLE BUY WITH SO MUCH INSPIRATION AND LOVE. AN ALLOW WHEEL, A TUBE LESS TYRE THESE ARE REALLY NOT THAT BIG AN ISSUE. BUT IN PEOPLE INSIST THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE SPOKED WHEELS AND TUBED TYRES, I CAN NOT JUDGE THAT.
          True again for the ABS part, but you have to understand the point, it’s not mean to ride screaming past 150 kmph. It’s a cruiser, I have gone till 130 kmph on my classic and yes, honestly it was not inspiring at all. It was super scary, RC 390 feels way better on those digits in speedo.
          IF YOU THINK IT IS TRUE I THANK YOU. ABS DOES NOT JUST KEEPS BREAKS FROM LOCKING, AND IS NOT USEFUL ONLY AT HIGH SPEEDS. IT IS A LIFE SAVING TRICK. I ONCE FELL OFF MY RD 350 ON A VERY SMALL HEAP OF SAND WHILE TAKING A U TURN AT A SPEED WHICH MAY BE 10 KMPL. BUT AS I SKIDDED, MY HAND PULLED THE ACCELERATOR AND THE TORQUE CREATED PUSHED THE BIKE SEVERAL METERS. IT BROKE MY WRIST AND SHOULDER AND I WAS OUT OF ACTION FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT ABS CAN SAVE YOU ON WET SURFACES AND SLIPPERY THINGS, LIKE SAND, AND SAVE YOU A LOTS OF SURPRISES. ITS NEITHER FAIL-SAFE OR ALWAYS SAVING IN ANY CONDITION, BUT IT HELPS. AND IT IS NOT A NEW TECHNOLOGY. IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR SOME TIME AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW RE MAY PUT ABS IN FUTURE. IF THEY DO, WHY DID THEY NOT? IT IS THEIR ATTITUDE OF TAKING THE EVER FORGIVING CUSTOMERS. THEY TAKE THEM FOR GRANTED. I DON’T LIKE THAT.
          As per after sales service, ha! I have had pleasure of owning multiple bikes and cars, and trust me it’s uneven. My dad is super fed up of Maruti Suzuki service for his car and he openly claims it’s the worst despite the general opinion being other way around. So, it’s the same way for most of brands. Depends on multiple factors. You just can’t generalise something based on a stereotype.
          I AGREE, AFTER SALE SERVICE IS A COMPLEX WORLD OVER WHEN IT COMES TO AUTOMOBILE. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT ASPIRATIONS AND SERVICER HAS LIMITATIONS. STILL SUZUKI OR TOYOTAS MAY LACK BASIC COURTSIES AS EXCEPTIONS. BUT WITH RE ITS LIKE A RULE. MY FRIEND WHO OWNS A 500, WAS PRIVATELY TOLD BY A SERVICE MANAGER THAT MOST BULLET RIDERS ARE RUFFIANS AND IF RUDENESS IS ALL THAT THEY UNDERSTAND. I DID NOT LIKE THAT EITHER. IF YOU LIFT THE CURTAIN, MAY BE YOU WILL FIND THAT THE SERVICE STATIONS DO NOT GET A PROPER RESPOSE FROM RE. THEY ARE TREATED RUDELY BY RE AND THEY PASS IT ON. I DO OT HOW FAR IT IS TRUE. YOU SEE IF A PROBLEM IS RECURRING AND AT SERVICE STATION LEVEL THEY HAVE NO CLUE TO IT, THEY REFER IT TO THE H.O. IF THEY CONTINUE TO GET NO RESPONSE OR SOLUTION, THEY STOP REFERRING FURTHER BUT THEY HAVE TO FACE A CUSTOMER WHO BELIEVES THAT THEY HAVE SOME SOLUTION, WHNE THEY DON’T. FRUSTRATION CAN MAKE ANY ONE RUDE.
          MY FRIEND WHO BOUGHT THE RE 500 IRON, HAD A LOOSE CHAIN ON HIS BRAND NEW BIKE.
          NOW IS THAT ASKING FOR TOO MUCH ?
          No smell of Oil or Grease. Trust me, I am allergic and would have sold the bike if that was the case.
          IAM HAPPY TO KNOW THAT. BUT YOU SHOULD WAIT FOR IT TO DO 10,000 KM AND CHECK AGAIN. I HOPE IT STAYS THE SAME FOR YOU.
          Paint quality is fine though their chrome plating sucks! Rust is a major issue due to extra-ordinary use of metal. Duly noted.

          YOU SEE, CHROME IS NOT A HIGH TECK MAJOR WORK EITHER. GO TO ANY DECENT SMALL CHROME PLATTER IN DELHI AND HE WILL GIVE YOU A HROME PLATING THAT WILL LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITHOUT LOOSING GLITTER OR TAKING RUST. ITS NO BIG SCIENCE, YOU CAN CHOOSE HOW MUCH CHROMIUM AND NICKLE YOU PUT IN THE SOLUTION BEFORE IT IS TREATED ON THE SUBSTRATE. YOU MAY CHOOSE A CHEAPER ONE OR A PROPER ONE. RE CHARGES LIKE THEY ARE IN GOOD ROYAL LEAGUE AND THEN CUTS COSTS. MIND YOU, THEY DO NOT IMPORT MUCH OF THEIR COMPONENTS AND STILL THEY KEEP CHARGING. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THEIR PRODUCTION IS NOR EFFICIENT AND THEY ARE LESS PRODUCTIVE HENCE MORE EXPENSIVE.

          So Mr Singh, I don’t know if your motive was to offend me or something with the rant above.
          IT IS NOT A RANT AND I HAVE NO MOTIVE TO OFFEND YOU. I AM SORRY AGAIN IF I DID.
          Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am noty offended, just amusedt amused. Honestly I am not a fanboy and I really don’t care. I used a Lumia 1520 (WP developer here) for 2 years, now I am using iPhone 6 and I may buy a Nexus 5 2015 in Nov when it launch. As you can see, customer is the king here. We are free to make choices as they fit us. Being a guy with a height of 6’2″ I find Royal Enfield Classic 500 to be super comfortable. I take it to my office ~3 times a week which is around 41 KMs one-side.
          p.s: I took a print out of checklist while taking delivery for my Toyota Etios too. So does it mean Toyota is a bad company? Hell, it’s the top manufacturer of the segment across the globe. Carrying a checklist just signifies how aware as a customer I am. Just my $0.02
          NO. BUT IF YOU CHECKD THE LIST ON A TOYOTA OR A MERCEDES, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CHECK ON MOST BOXES. IS THIS THE CASE WITH RE? HONESTLY?
          I DO AGREE THAT RE HAS A FINE BOOKLET.

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          • September 5, 2015 at 12:22 am

            Damn! This looks like mother of inline-comments. I will do the partial inline for your replies. Hope you will get it. 😛


            I AM HAPPY FOR YOU. I WONDER WHY…FOR YOU MY FRIEND.
            >> I do it all the time when Green light ETA >40 seconds.


            ITS NOT A SHARP RACE TRACK…THE BETTER JUDGE.
            >> Well this is scary because I always slightly incline my CL500 on bank roads while pulling out my knee on bends. Guess old habits die hard, but I am quite sure Classics have a good ground clearance.


            ALIGNEMENT IS NOT A TRIVIAL ISSUE…MUST BE RETURNED
            >> The problem is bikes are shipped from Chennai factory in trucks. With loading and unload and a long travel time, it’s bound to happen. But I duly agree that bike should be thoroughly inspected in PDI by Workshop guys before delivering it to the customer. 🙄


            I AGREE. BUT CARRYING A LEGACY…LOOKS AND STYLE AND OF COURSE SOUND.
            >> Well yes! I agree, EFI is great but they should incorporate more advanced tech. If I am paying ~₹1.5 lacs+ I expect it to have ABS, Tubeless tyres, Dual disc etc. The problem is that ever since Classic was launched back in 2009, it has been the best selling model for RE and is the key variant to be credited for the sudden interest of people in RE and long waiting periods. But since the launch there has been very little change in the Classic family. I do hope that they do bring some nice upgrades in next year’s model. Let’s hope for the best. 😉


            IF YOU AGREE WITH ME, YOU CAN…NOT JUDGE THAT.
            >> +1 for Tubeless tyres. I believe those who insist for Tubed tyres are living in denial. :mrgreen:


            ABS DOES NOT JUST KEEPS BREAKS…LIKE THAT.
            >> I agree ABS can be life saving. But for the matter of fact 💡 The ABS that is currently available in the bikes are only useful when you are braking in a straight line. Even the slightest amount of lean and its effectiveness drops. down exponentially


            I AGREE, AFTER SALE SERVICE…CAN MAKE ANY ONE RUDE.
            >> Well I am yet to experience any rude behaviour from RE guys. I am a software engineer, if you even hinted a little bit of rudeness to me, I am going to screw them badly.

            Respect is a 2 lane highway. You give it first to get it back. 🙂


            YOU SEE, CHROME IS NOT A HIGH TECH…HENCE MORE EXPENSIVE.
            >> Well this is something I don’t have much idea about. Thank you for expanding the horizon of my Bike gyaan. Well, let me know if you know some good guy to get my Rider seat’s springs plated. Delhi monsoon hasn’t been kind to them. Also, I don’t think Chrome plating is a costly affair so don’t see the point of cost cutting here. 😛


            IAM HAPPY TO KNOW THAT. BUT YOU SHOULD WAIT FOR IT TO DO 10,000 KM AND CHECK AGAIN. I HOPE IT STAYS THE SAME FOR YOU
            >> Haha! Let’s see sir. I really hope RE has left it’s Oilfield days back in 20th century. 😈


            IT IS NOT A RANT AND I HAVE NO MOTIVE TO OFFEND YOU. I AM SORRY AGAIN IF I DID.
            >> Ha! 😀


            NO. BUT IF YOU CHECKED THE LIST ON A TOYOTA OR A MERCEDES, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CHECK ON MOST BOXES. IS THIS THE CASE WITH RE? HONESTLY?
            I DO AGREE THAT RE HAS A FINE BOOKLET.
            >> Luckily I didn’t have any problem. And since this was bought from my own earning, trust me I did a thorough job in inspecting it. 😎

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    • Amit Chugh
      October 21, 2015 at 11:44 am

      LOL!! Thats a load of bull shit! You have no idea what your are talking about….no point in giving you any explaination…….Classic case of Ignorance is Bliss! LOL!! still i couldnt resist…Kick Start ? have u heard about the self starter button?! you clearly havent! I rest my case….peace.

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    • nishant chaudhary
      November 27, 2015 at 11:56 am

      Lolzzz. The most hilarious review I have ever heard .

      Stanza is an absolute epic ” And one old man I knew said he makes his own whiskey. His doctors told him that his liver now hangs on thin threads and his whiskey is no more than a poison, still he said, “Pahli Dhaar ki peene ka maza hi kuchh aur hai” No matter what the costs are. ”

      Sentence made me laugh for hours -“Pahli Dhaar ki peene ka maza hi kuchh aur hai” , reminded me of my village .

      Thanks for epic laugh I had after years .

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  • Karan Luthra
    July 29, 2015 at 1:55 am

    Hi Jatin,

    I am going to take a delivery of my bike on 10th of Aug and I am curious (scared) of knowing everything about the PDI. I have read a lot about the PDI and still not sure if small issues like a air filter box is not fixed or locked in properly, the paint is coming off from some place or alignment issue.

    Looking for assistance on these things, or tell me how to deal with the dealer in this situation.

    Thanks!
    Karan

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    • Karan Luthra
      July 29, 2015 at 1:56 am

      O by the way its a lagoon blue 350…

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    • July 29, 2015 at 11:53 am

      Hello Karan,

      First of all, congrats to be a proud owner of Enfield (in a few days)!

      Well, I can very well understand your concern as RE bikes are sent from the Chennai factory across India in Trucks. So, there is always a chance something might be messed up. However, before delivering the bike to you, it’s the Dealer’s duty to get the PDI (Pre delivery inspection) done at their workshop for each and every bike.

      Here is a nice PDI list I used:

      1. Start with visually inspecting the whole bike- from bodywork to rims tyres- anything hanging, out of place, damaged, dented, rusting at the welding joints or repaired(transit damaged) painted parts like fuel tank, mudguard .

      2. Check the front fork sleeves(which covers the forks top length) clearance between the front mudguard. If clearance is not equal between booth the sleeves and the mudguard then it will scuff and damage the paint work on mudguard/sleeves.

      3. Check for all the electrical parts .e.g. headlight high/low beam- high beam pass, indicators, horns, brake light switch -front and rear, parking light, EStart. Also check the indication light in the speedo- neutral light, high beam and indicator.

      4. Apply the front and rear brake to check out the effectiveness and any odd noise from front or rear brake while braking.

      5. Check your tool kit if its complete or not.

      6. Take the key and match the serial number on the key with the lock serial no of the rear LHS electrical/storage box. The no will be on the outside where you insert the key into the lock. Also check working of all the locks on the bike with same key.

      7. Check the chain slack while sitting on centre stand and then off it. Should not be more then 1.5 inch while on the centre stand.

      8. After starting the bike, check for any exhaust leaks at the head where the down pipe is attached and at the exhaust/down pipe joint. Also for any white smoke from the exhaust.

      9. Check for any oil leaks from the engine-rocker covers, side covers- rear shock absorbers and front. Don’t worry if you see a bit of oil under the RHS engine cover. It will be form the chain.

      10. After engine has warmed up for a couple of minutes- the tick tick noise of the auto de-compressor should stop. Check the idling is stable and not erratic(jumping up/down). Starting should be smooth and not take more then one crank to start(not more the 3 seconds to start)

      11. Take a ride on the bike and make sure you have a pillion rider as you need to see if you have rubbing issues of the rear tyre with the mudguard. Thats due to the bad alignment of the mudguard and sometimes of the rear tyre also.

      12. While test riding, go through all the gears and brakes(F/R). Notice any abnormal noise or any hesitation in the engine response. Do check the exhaust for any white smoke or black while riding.

      13. Check for any acid spill from the battery and the drain pipe from the battery is attached. First gen C5 use to come with exide batteries which had no drain pipe but new ones come with exide or FIemm batteries which have the drain pipe. Look for any spill damage on the engine cover under the battery

      14. Check the accelerator cable- should not get stuck when turning left or right while on C stand. Check the choke cable for proper engagement and clutch cable is not too tight or too lose.

      15. Check booth the springs present on the centre stand and engage the side stand. Should not take much effort to engage both the stands.

      16. To check for any pre damage to the chassis front. Turn the handle bar left to right. It should turn equally to both the sides and not more or less at one side to other.

      17. Handle should not be tight. To check this, lean the handle to one side wee bit and if it comes down fully then its fine. To check for loose handle, apply the front brake and rock the bike forward and backward. You will feel the play or noise if its too loose. You can also put it on C stand and while holding the handle firmly, ask you friend to grab the front forks and rock it forward / backward. Any play will be felt easily.

      18. While on C stand, rotate the front wheel and check the run out of the tyre or at least any abnormal noise. Wheel should rotate freely and also check for front speedo is tight at the speedo hub and the speedo needle is moving smoothly .

      19. To check the D.O.B of your bike, open up the LHS electrical box and you will find the green non- pollution sticker with the D.O.B on it. You can cross check the month with the chassis no.

      20. By RE rule, your dealer should fill the fuel tank above reserve and the reserve light should go off. But most of the dealers steal the petrol money and give you only .5L(even less) to get you to the nearest petrol station. You can actually demand from him to fill up more then reserve as per company policy or else you should inform RE about it. After you fill her up, if the reserve light is still on then the fuel level indicator is faulty.

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      • July 29, 2015 at 12:13 pm

        Also, regarding how to deal with the dealer in case of mishap!

        Just refuse to accept the bike until they fix the issue! The dealer will try to get rid of situation by telling you to get it fixed from their workshop and bluff like it will delay the delivery by weeks or months just so that you take the complaint back. Just DON’T!

        In such case, simply ask for a confirmation for same in written or else simply tell him that You will ask/complaint Royal Enfield head office about your behaviour on Email/Social Media! If he still refuses, ask him to cancel the booking. He will shit bricks and will make sure he listens to you.

        Protip: In such case don’t argue with the Sales/Delivery guy. Just walk in to the office of Dealership manager and follow the above.


        Let’s hope you won’t need to go through any of that anyway. Happy Riding mate. Let us know when you get your beast!

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  • A. K. Mukherjee
    July 15, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Hallo Jatin! I shall like to thank you for presenting a wholesome review for Classic 500. Let me tell something about myself. I had been a proud owner of Bullet Electra 5s (Cast Iron Engine) for a period of 3 years (since 2007) and 52000 km. During the period of ownership, I learnt various jobs on regular maintenance and also realized that bikes from stable of Royal Enfield calls for heavy physical maintenance. The good part is that it helped me to get emotionally connected to my steed, although it is a machine. Presently, for the past four years I am driving an Apache RTR 180 but it has never able to fill the gap of ‘Bullet feel’. Gradually, I am getting inclined to get a Bullet. Since, I have driven 350 cc a lot, I think that a 500 cc would be right to go. I have not owned and rode it, From various blogs, reviews and ownership experience that I came upon on net, it appears to me that it is altogether different experience to ride on the saddle of a 500 cc Bullet/Classic. After reading your blog, I believe that you are the right person to get some feedback on this mean machine. I have a few queries. It is listed below.
    (a) Did you ever experienced starting trouble during the winters of Delhi with your motorcycle? If yes, was it easy to get over it or does it demanded 10 to 20 kicks or push of self starter button?
    (b) Can you please tell the fuel efficiency figures (approximate as the bike is not fitted with reserve key) during winters of Delhi? How the figure changed during summers? I know that a wannabe Bulletier should not ask such forbidden question, but if you watch the following two videos on youtube, you shall get to know that it is possible to improve existing fuel efficiency figures. The links are:
    For open loop operation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebDV63eMFro
    For closed loop operation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Ryk7D_3co
    The motorcycles that are imported to foreign countries are provided with a lambda O2 sensor at the exhaust pipe. Those are closed loop feedback while those which are made for Indian market are devoid of this sensor as it requires installation of an expensive Catalytic converter. ECU’s of these Indian siblings run on open loop.
    (c) How many times the fuel injector and/or fuel pump has been cleaned or replaced?
    (d) After running how many km, do the fuel filter requires replacement?

    In your blog, you mentioned about back firing with a loud (phat) sound. I have given some thought to it. First, we need to understand why this sound occurs The fuel/air mixture is an explosive mixture. So, if the fuel keeps on burning explosively even after the exhaust stroke, the sound could take place. This explanation is supported by the fact that the golden color has appeared in the bent pipe. Now, the question is why the fuel-air mixture keep on burning after the exhaust stroke? This could only happen, if ,
    (a) the fuel injector is injecting more fuel than required in some strokes
    (b) the ignition timing is retarded in some four stroke cycle.
    (c) there is carbon deposition inside Pulsating Air Valve, a device even RE mechanics get scared of to open and clean.
    Sorry that, I can not comment on the wobbling part unless and untill I get a feel of the dynamics of motorcycle.
    Waiting for your response. Ride Safe.

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    • July 23, 2015 at 2:43 pm

      Hello sir!

      FIrst of all, apologies for late reply as your comment was somehow struck in Spam filter and I couldn’t notice it. Also, thanks a lot for appreciation and I am glad you went through the pain for reading my wholesome experience.

      An Old bulleteer! What a pleasure to have this discussion with you! It’s true one just can not replace that bullet feel. As you must have read in Part 1 and Part 2 of this post, I myself was inclined to go for a modern JAP bike or KTM but as soon as I took the test ride for CL500 I was sold. One just can’t deny the old charm of Royal enfield bikes. However, you are very true on the maintenance for the same as it just doesn’t follow the “Fill it, Shut it, Forget it!” mantra like other bikes. It always need that special care. Although you yourself had the old Cast iron spec’d Electra, compared to which new UCE engines are almost maintenance free. RE has moved on from their bad “Oilfield” reputation days.

      I see you have posted quite a list of comments and queries. I will reply you your points in the similar manner.

      (a) Did you ever experienced starting trouble during the winters of Delhi with your motorcycle? If yes, was it easy to get over it or does it demanded 10 to 20 kicks or push of self starter button?
      >> Not even once in last 6 months I had a trouble with self. Fuel injection really play it’s part well. Upon swinging the key to Ignition, the ECU chip checks for all faults for 2-3 seconds, if any, and then with just a subtle press of self button the engine comes roaring to it’s dug-dug life. Also, I sometimes start the same with kick and I am able to do it in 1 or max 2 kicks. I can understand you concern as old cast iron bikes used to have the pressure mechanism and would sometimes require endless kicks to get it started, but it’s just not the case with CL500.

      (b) Can you please tell the fuel efficiency figures (approximate as the bike is not fitted with reserve key) during winters of Delhi? How the figure changed during summers? I know that a wannabe Bulletier should not ask such forbidden question, but if you watch the following two videos on youtube, you shall get to know that it is possible to improve existing fuel efficiency figures. The links are:
      For open loop operation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebDV63eMFro
      For closed loop operation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Ryk7D_3co
      The motorcycles that are imported to foreign countries are provided with a lambda O2 sensor at the exhaust pipe. Those are closed loop feedback while those which are made for Indian market are devoid of this sensor as it requires installation of an expensive Catalytic converter. ECU’s of these Indian siblings run on open loop.

      >> Ah! The Lambda O2 sensor. I remember reading a great deal about it on xBHP CL500 ownership thread. Well, as per fuel efficiency in Winters, I got the bike in January which is almost the peak of Winters in Delhi. Before first service I got ~26 Km/Lt. I managed to log 500 clicks in 11 days. After 1st service (engine oil change) the FE climbed to ~29 Km/Lt. After that I couldn’t keep a track of same. But in last refill last week, I got FE ~31 Km/Lt. which is pretty decent for a 500cc mill IMHO. Few of my friends having the CL350 are getting ~34 Km/Lt. so I guess I am satisfied, although FE depends a lot on one’s riding style. As per the O2 sensor, No you cant fix an O2 sensor on domestic ECU!
      Reasons:
      Although the one on the export model is a 4wire heated lambda sensor for which there is no wiring in the loom. Pins are blank on the ECU. Even if you manage to plug in wires from O2 sensor into the ECU, it will not work. ECU is not programmed to pick up any signals from O2. You will need the loom and custom aftermarket ECU to attach an O2. RE has refused to acknowledge any issues with the EFI setup with the absence of O2 so zilch hope of having an O2 on C5 in near future. But pollution norms could force RE to provide one. You never know.
      The O2 sensor and the ECU programs are there to reduce the exhaust emissions so they conform to the US Department Of Transportation regulations. It is not something that increases engine power or fuel economy.

      (c) How many times the fuel injector and/or fuel pump has been cleaned or replaced?
      >> Not even ONCE! Why would you do that? It’s just a misconception. You fuel tank has a fuel filter to stop dirt/misc particles to enter the fuel pump. It’s just that you know it’s there you are worrying about it. Most of our cars are fuel injected. How many times you had need to get it cleaned separately? Replacing a fuel pump is beyond question unless there is a manufacturing defect or it’s being tempered with, I see no reason.

      (d) After running how many km, do the fuel filter requires replacement?
      >> Well, I have no idea about the same. Again like the hypothesis above, unless you are getting a lot of Dirt fuel I don’t think it is necessary. It can purely be a use case dependent scenario as you bike may start to misfire/stall due to dirt accumulation in the fuel filter but that’s a rare case. I have a Pulsar 220 Fi in my family which was bought in 2007. It’s in 8th year now and still didn’t have to change the Fuel pump or Filter. So, I guess it’s more of a maintenance + petrol pump’s fuel quality luck

      Few benefits of EFI which you will definitely feel over carb (based on personal experience):
      #1 Crisp and instant throttle response (hell indeed) 😛
      #2 No cold starts problems.
      #3 Better spread of power throughout the rev range.
      #4 Red line chasing nature. (not that you should do it often)

      Hope this solves all your queries. I have tried my best to keep the response to the point. If you feel the need to know anything else, feel free to shoot it here in comments. Good day. 🙂

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      • July 23, 2015 at 2:49 pm

        p.s: As per the problem with misfiring and phat sound, it’s surprisingly solved in a recent 3rd free service last week. I have quite a *bad* reputation at the service center as I decided to write a firm long email of 1500 words to their head office while keeping all top officials in cc of that mail in first week of ownership of the bike. So, bonus? They listen to my problems patiently and genuinely try to solve them.

        For the golden color on the bent pipe, you are absolutely correct! I also think that the ignition timing is retarded or there is carbon deposition. I haven’t pressed them much on that issue. Maybe, I should drop a mail to Royal Enfield Chennai office and enquire about the same?! :/

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